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Riding without Footbeds

So I was bored yesterday and hit up a local shop.. I ended up picking up the 32 TM Two Yo Beats. In conversation and talking about sizing, the guy mentioned that people are riding without footbeds in the boot when the sizing is just a little off. So I put the boots on with and without the beds.. Do any of you ride without footbeds? Just curious because I've never seen or heard of this. When trying them each way, it seems like there is still decent cushion without them.
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no thats retarded even the shitty stock insoles are better than not using any.

get rid of those too and get some Reminds though.

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no thats retarded even the shitty stock insoles are better than not using any.

get rid of those too and get some Reminds though.
Thats what I thought... Never heard of that so I was wondering what the guy was thinking. I'll look into the Reminds....
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If you need a little room. I think Superfeet offers a thin insole. Not sure of the color, but its worth looking into.
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Sounds like rubbish.
If size doesn't fit and you need a tad more room, take one size bigger and add custom soles which - my experience - need a tad more room as well, so the bigger size could fit well. Or get a different model that fits.

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Sounds like rubbish.
If size doesn't fit and you need a tad more room, take one size bigger and add custom soles which - my experience - need a tad more room as well, so the bigger size could fit well. Or get a different model that fits.
I run size 9's.. My lashed are 9's too. I don't have any problems with the 9's other than like others said, the liners don't pack out as much as other boots. Its not a big deal because they fit great aside from the press on my big toe (dont have pain or anything, just tight). Without insole it was perfect with that little bit of differenc, but I was skeptical one what the guy told me and wouldn't run without insoles regardless.. I'm really just curious if anyone has heard of such a thing... Im going to def buy some aftermarkets.
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You really do have to be careful who you believe or trust when it comes to fitting boots, or really buying/getting fitted for ANY SB gear. Lot's of minimum wage retards in a lot of shops. Even in shops that otherwise do have good knowledgeable people!

I went in to get some custom footbeds and some help in getting my boots fitted properly. I asked one of the sales people, working IN the snowboarding dept. who could help me? He flat out declared that you couldn't do ANYTHING to customize the fit of snowboard boot. You were pretty much stuck with the way the boot fits initially.

Fortunately this was last year and I had been riding long enough and read all of BA's boot advice, to know this twit was a know nothing 'Tard! I then asked for the manager to hook me up with their best fitter!

Came away with a much better fit on old boots and got at least an extra season & half out of them. (...still riding them but they may now be packed out beyond all help!)

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You really do have to be careful who you believe or trust when it comes to fitting boots, or really buying/getting fitted for ANY SB gear. Lot's of minimum wage retards in a lot of shops. Even in shops that otherwise do have good knowledgeable people!

I went in to get some custom footbeds and some help in getting my boots fitted properly. I asked one of the sales people, working IN the snowboarding dept. who could help me! He flat out declared that you couldn't do ANYTHING to customize the fit of snowboard boot. You were pretty much stuck with the way the boot fits initially.

Fortunately this was last year and I had been riding long enough to know this twit was a know nothing 'Tard and asked for the manager to hook me up with their best fitter!

Came away with a much better fit on old boots and got at least an extra season & half out of them. (...still riding them but they may now be packed out beyond all help!)

Always get second and third opinions on info you are unsure of!
Another reason why I thought it would be interesting to get a response on here. This is the first time I've been to this shop and it was raining so I thought I'd go check them out. The guy was nice enough and seem to know a bit, but this threw up a flag. I've bought boots at both of the other local shops and neither one ever mentioned removing insoles.. It didn't sit right with me. I was pretty much browsing and he also made a comment that I could ride a 152 Capita (I was just admiring the graphics, not buying a board lol) because the longer effective edge made it ride like a 156.. I'm 220lbs.. My artifact is 156 and my Proto is 158.. I'd never run a 152 (although another subject all together). The guy definitely knew the specs on everything they sold, but just was questioning the logic beyond the tech.
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You really do have to be careful who you believe or trust when it comes to fitting boots, or really buying/getting fitted for ANY SB gear. Lot's of minimum wage retards in a lot of shops. Even in shops that otherwise do have good knowledgeable people!

I went in to get some custom footbeds and some help in getting my boots fitted properly. I asked one of the sales people, working IN the snowboarding dept. who could help me! He flat out declared that you couldn't do ANYTHING to customize the fit of snowboard boot. You were pretty much stuck with the way the boot fits initially.

Fortunately this was last year and I had been riding long enough to know this twit was a know nothing 'Tard and asked for the manager to hook me up with their best fitter!

Came away with a much better fit on old boots and got at least an extra season & half out of them. (...still riding them but they may now be packed out beyond all help!)

Always get second and third opinions on info you are unsure of!
man you have no idea even the people who rent you board knows nothing about snowboarding. this freaking kid told my buddy to put dominant foot in the back.
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man you have no idea even the people who rent you board knows nothing about snowboarding. this freaking kid told my buddy to put dominant foot in the back.
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You really do have to be careful who you believe or trust when it comes to [B](fix) almost everything[B].
don’t get me started... A shop kid fixing my angles to +/- cos „it’s better“ although I told him my +/+ angles, a shop kid not able to find out how to remove the footbed of my bindings, a tent guy forgetting to tighten 3 of 4 screws, a shop guy claiming to be the local split wiki telling me that it’s impossible to use a split binding on a solid, a shop guy telling me girls can’t ride this and that board, a shop kid telling me they sell splits but no split bindings cos solid bindings do better, the x shop guys holding a board next to me checking the tip-chin level to check if the size is correct, the shop kid I asked for a stiff aggressive freeride board and he grabbed a burton lip-stick (“this one has a nice color, ain’t it?”), a shop guy putting two left bindings in the box when I was buying a pair, a tent guy insisting that this 145 will be perfect for me and then the sales guy insisting that this 162 split will be perfect for me (it was the last one on stock)
this are some of the ones I remember from ’13 season

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