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Old 02-01-2014, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bought some new boots this year. Vans infuse. Fitment was great, have always had outrageous metatarsal pain in 8 different boots until now. Boots were snug until heat molding, now they packed out a bit after a few weeks. Probably a bit too much room, but I'm able to hold my foot in place just fine by using j bars and running a thin sock+regular wool ski sock.

Any time I apply lean forward, the boot now creates a pressure point on the top of my foot in front of my ankle. Any idea as to how I can resolve this? It's not immediate, but by lunch time it causes some pretty sharp pain after the repeated pressure being applied with each turn.
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Is it even on both feet? Is this the same pain you've had with other boots or is it unique to this boot? Try to identify if it's the shape of the boot or the shape of your foot.
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Unique to this boot. I get metatarsal pain normally that forces me to stop once or twice a run. Not an issue with these boots, just a pressure point on the top of my foot in front of my ankles on the inner portion. Even with both feet.
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Anyone? I forgot to mention I'm also using a set of custom orthotics.
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My best guess regarding your boots is that they are too small. If they have wiggle room in the instep you're not going to get proper support from the inner laces. It'll create a pressure point because the inner laces will be tighter than the rest of the liner. Try loosening them a bit or don't even tighten them at all for a few runs. You will take a hit in response, but if the sore sport goes away, you'll know that's the source of the problem.

The other guess is you may have a technique issue. You may simply be fighting the boot. If you're pushing down into the boot with your toes on either edge, it'll push your instep into the tongue of the boot, which will cause you a lot of pain very quickly. This can be hard to spot without coaching because you can do it passively and it wont interfere with your riding, but it will cause a sore spot on the front ankle and instep. A quick lesson with a half decent instructor and they will be able to point it out in your first few turns.

Edit, what are those orthotics doing for you? Arch support? Cushioning?
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Perhaps add some oversized (not thickness use 1/4-1/8") foam pad to the outsider of the liner....then don't crank the boa/laces as tight...it might spread the area of pressure out. Or if the above fails...take away...shave abit from the area on the liner where the hot spot is.....(see above boot faq sticky)
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My best guess regarding your boots is that they are too small. If they have wiggle room in the instep you're not going to get proper support from the inner laces. It'll create a pressure point because the inner laces will be tighter than the rest of the liner. Try loosening them a bit or don't even tighten them at all for a few runs. You will take a hit in response, but if the sore sport goes away, you'll know that's the source of the problem.

The other guess is you may have a technique issue. You may simply be fighting the boot. If you're pushing down into the boot with your toes on either edge, it'll push your instep into the tongue of the boot, which will cause you a lot of pain very quickly. This can be hard to spot without coaching because you can do it passively and it wont interfere with your riding, but it will cause a sore spot on the front ankle and instep. A quick lesson with a half decent instructor and they will be able to point it out in your first few turns.

Edit, what are those orthotics doing for you? Arch support? Cushioning?
If anything, the boots are slightly too big with my orthotics. They are quite roomy in the toe box, which is perfect. Ankle is a bit on the loose side as well, but this was snugged up with j bars.


They provide arch support and contain a metatarsal pad. Custom, not the superfeet/out of the box ones.
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Perhaps add some oversized (not thickness use 1/4-1/8") foam pad to the outsider of the liner....then don't crank the boa/laces as tight...it might spread the area of pressure out. Or if the above fails...take away...shave abit from the area on the liner where the hot spot is.....(see above boot faq sticky)

Tried some foam already, but this was far too thin I think. I'll try to find some 1/8" foam.
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My best guess regarding your boots is that they are too small. If they have wiggle room in the instep you're not going to get proper support from the inner laces. It'll create a pressure point because the inner laces will be tighter than the rest of the liner. Try loosening them a bit or don't even tighten them at all for a few runs. You will take a hit in response, but if the sore sport goes away, you'll know that's the source of the problem.

The other guess is you may have a technique issue. You may simply be fighting the boot. If you're pushing down into the boot with your toes on either edge, it'll push your instep into the tongue of the boot, which will cause you a lot of pain very quickly. This can be hard to spot without coaching because you can do it passively and it wont interfere with your riding, but it will cause a sore spot on the front ankle and instep. A quick lesson with a half decent instructor and they will be able to point it out in your first few turns.

Edit, what are those orthotics doing for you? Arch support? Cushioning?
Forgot to mention. I'm a level 2 aasi. Technique is not the issue here, perhaps I let it slip a bit when riding park, but the problem persists through all types of riding.


Pinpointed this issue to the instep region. Getting a pressure point there as I frequently get cold toes due to circulation issues. Going to shim under my orthotic and throw 1/4" thick foam on top of the liner. Will be tight, but should distribute the pressure.
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Forgot to mention. I'm a level 2 aasi.

Pinpointed this issue to the instep region.
Can't argue with that.

If you're getting pressure in the instep there are a lot of things to try. In my experience putting material in the liner behind your foot to push it forward tends to be ideal as adding more material directly over the instep tends to end poorly. You have a large artery there and adding pressure directly on top of it will tend to cut it off. Pushing the entire liner forward into the tongue has worked for me in the past. Any advice you get here will be pretty shoddy compared to a professional boot fitter so if you can't get away with some shims here and there you might run your boots by a pro to see what they can do for you. Good luck.
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