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hikerman 02-24-2014 07:15 AM

Laces or pull tie
 
Hello

Looking for pros and cons for laces or quick pull style.

Have a per of Solomon's that are the quick pull type that do not stay tight.

These were probably entry level boots but only 1 1/2 season of of them.

Do better quality last longer?

Can you get an even tightness throughout the boot with laces?

Do all liners come with quick pull?

Thanks

Paul

CassMT 02-24-2014 08:07 AM

the reason i prefer laces is that you don't have to have even tightness, i want 100% control of that

linvillegorge 02-24-2014 08:35 AM

I've had two pairs of Salomon boots and never had an issue keeping them tight. The issue I have had is the laces wearing out and the outer layer fraying which leaves them too narrow to lock in and replacing the laces on them is a complete PITA.

snowklinger 02-24-2014 08:43 AM

i like trad laces.

learned to tie them over 30 years ago, still not hard.

wrathfuldeity 02-24-2014 08:53 AM

laces give more control over where you want it tight and will stay tight...laces do wear out fairly quickly (carry an extra 1 in your pocket)...but laces are abit of a pita....I like double boa 32's. And higher-end boots generally last longer and will often have the inner liner harness...which is great for heel hold...then you can leave the boot shell looser. btw...not a fan of speed/quick lace system

snowklinger 02-24-2014 09:08 AM

fwiw: i've yet to have a lace break before the boot is done (~100 days)

i have seen some fraying, nbd.

hikerman 02-24-2014 11:36 AM

Thanks

Laces it is... What do the liners have laces also?

boarderaholic 02-24-2014 11:56 AM

I prefer a quick lace system. Had no tightness issues with my previous Salomon boots until the outer shell broke down from so much use. I'm currently using the double boa system with my K2 Contour boots and am enjoying this system.

extra0 02-28-2014 09:07 AM

another one for quick lace. I've tried traditional and boa as well and I still like salomon's powerlace better. It stays locked. Only flaw is they need handle storing slots on both sides of the shell, not just one.

op's prob may indeed be the entry level system. Pre-2008, Salomon's entry level was notorious for having the worst zone-less "lock" (it never stayed locked), which was a complete waste considering they were otherwise high quality boots. They supposedly upgraded that crap system to something that looks like the advanced version...guess it isn't.

true, my 2009 dialogues broke down and packed out shocking quick (shame because they were also the best feeling/best fitting boots I've ever owned). I'm on 2011 F.2 now and they're holding up extremely well - still stiff and no liner to pack out

poutanen 02-28-2014 10:46 AM

I've used traditional laces, and burton speed laces (they're dual zone). The fiancee has Nitro speed laces where the laces latch on the tongue instead of the sides.

NO ISSUES with Burton speed laces. I love them. They're quick, easy to figure out how much pressure I'm putting on, and they DON'T come loose. I tighten them once in the morning and that's it for the day.

Fiancees Nitros aren't as good, the tongue catches are on a weird angle, so you're pulling them into your knee and they don't always seat right. She ends up adjusting them a few times per day.

YMMV, but I like Burtons system.


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