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persianninja 06-04-2014 01:10 PM

Small footprint boot for more playful/flexible board (Skate Banana)
 
Hey all,
Some background info 1st:
I just started learning snowboarding this year and had alot of fun.

I have a Skate Banana in size 148N (narrow). im a pretty small dude (5' 3", size 7.5-8 shoe), so I saw the Fuse-AT bindings cover my shoe size in their Medium and Large sizes (like their Medium covers 4-8.5 and Large covers 8-11.5)...
So i chose Medium bindings since its a small board for a small guy like me and assume I'd want the smaller bindings.
I had to use the adjustment on the bindings that makes the Flow highbacks go 'back' further to fit my shoe more comfortably.
but now my Medium sized Flow Fuse-AT bindings would just touch or be over the edges (and almost overhang which I heard is bad).
Just replaced my old board and got a size 149 Skate Banana which seems to be .5 inches bigger at the waist width so should center the binding more properly Im guessing.

Anyway, I guess my question is:
Should I get a small footprint boot for the Medium bindings (and if so, what is a great small-footprint boot that works well with that Skate Banana/Flow Fuse-AT combo) .

or replace my current Medium bindings with Large Fuse bindings to accommodate my current Ride Sage BOA boots (and hope they dont touch the edges of the 149 board)?

Tatanka Head 06-04-2014 01:23 PM

I'm on my phone so I will make this short. Center your boots and bindings on your board and post a picture of it so we can see how much over-hang you are taking about. Also, with your boots in your bindings on your board, tilt your board so that both the edge of the board and you toe are touching the ground. How extreme is that angle?

ridinbend 06-04-2014 02:01 PM

There is no reason not to consider getting ladies equipment. If your that small, it might be better oriented to helping you progress quicker.

linvillegorge 06-04-2014 02:26 PM

I'd replace the boots. Bindings will outlive a pair of boots, so my thinking is to replace the item that has the shortest lifespan.

Now, if your boots fit well and are fairly new, I might replace the bindings instead since bindings have decent resell value while boots have virtually zero resell value.

persianninja 06-04-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridinbend (Post 1726138)
There is no reason not to consider getting ladies equipment. If your that small, it might be better oriented to helping you progress quicker.

Yep, my Ride Sage BOA boots are already ladies since I needed a pair of boots quick and snowboard shop didn't have my size in mens shoes... the problem with ladies boards are they are the same size as the 148N anyway, so the binding won't fit well that either.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatanka Head (Post 1726130)
I'm on my phone so I will make this short. Center your boots and bindings on your board and post a picture of it so we can see how much over-hang you are taking about.

K I'll check late tonight when I get home and post a pic for you.
Its literally the edge of bindings touching both ends. One snowboard guy said its alright, one snowboard guy said its not alright... Hence why i got a larger board so the bindings can actuallly be centered vs touchihg both edges.
For my shoes to fit into the size Medium Flow bindings still feels hard sometimes, so wondering if I need to go up to Large and if Large bindings would fit the 149 specs (vs touching the edges like 148N+Medium did).

persianninja 06-05-2014 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatanka Head (Post 1726130)
I'm on my phone so I will make this short. Center your boots and bindings on your board and post a picture of it so we can see how much over-hang you are taking about.

Here you go Tatanka Head with some pics to show how close the binding comes to the edge (the right/back side slightly goes over the edge more since the angle is 12', the front/left side is 15' so it spaces out better and doesn't touch front edge as much):

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3872/...fbe8f853_h.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/...3bbbf89b_b.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3904/...6998e351_b.jpg
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2900/...deebbe88_h.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatanka Head (Post 1726130)
How extreme is that angle?

When I bend the snowboard forward on its edge, the toe end of the shoe doesnt touch the ground till like 90 degrees. Guess its 'extreme', but i guess thats good that the toe doesnt touch the ground till an extreme angle, correct?

Tatanka Head 06-05-2014 03:29 AM

I wouldn't even trip on that at all.

francium 06-05-2014 04:03 AM

Unless your euro carving that should be fine.

neni 06-05-2014 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatanka Head (Post 1726538)
I wouldn't even trip on that at all.

I don’t understand that comment (language wise :blush:)... but OP: try to imagine at which situation this toe overhang would actually affect you. A board is tilted a) when turning/carving or b) when traversing.
Now with your setup, it takes 90 tilt till toes touch the ground. You'd need to be a damn good high-speed carver till you can tilt 90 in a carve and you'd need to be traversing super steep terrain till drag would be a topic. Thus: no worries (and I assume, that's what Tatanka was saying :))

davidj 06-05-2014 06:26 AM

Hey OP, as others have said, you're good.

That said, if you can get your hands on Flow's metal baseplates (instead of the nylon ones on the Fuse) you'll get the adjustability you need... to balance the overhang over both edges, that is. OTOH, it may take away from (or add to) the feel and ride of the board. :dunno:

Don't know if this is even doable, just guessing that Flow (for manufacturing efficiency reasons) would have standard sizes for their base plates that would be interchangeable throughout their whole product line.


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