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tmiddled 07-04-2014 11:16 PM

Are my Boots too Small?
 
Hi All,

I recently bought a pair of 32 lashed size 8 boots online (yeah, I know big mistake. But cheapest pair here in Australia was >$300 and they cost $130 inc. shipping from US, so I took the gamble).

When I first tried them on I was stoked as I thought they fit perfect, but then did my first day on the slopes with them last week and my big toe on my front foot, and second toe on my back foot absolutely killed by the end of the day from digging into the end of the boot whilst riding heel side.

So, now back from riding:

So when I take the inner out, and they seem to fit nice and snug - my toes don't even touch the end.

When I put the whole boot on and bend my knees, my toes barely touch the end (no pain at all).

When I stand completely straight, there is a decent bit of pressure on the toes.

When I lean back on my heels and point my toes down, there is quite a lot of pressure on my big toes. I have done them up really tight now so not as much pressure as when I was riding, but it is still quite a bit, and I think after a few hours it would start to hurt.

My heel slightly comes off as my foot slides forward a bit when leaning back.

So, are they definitely too small? I am usually a size 8 or 9 shoe. I hired size 8 K2 boots in Japan and they were fine, maybe even a tad too loose.

I guess I have three options. Sell on ebay now. I don't think I would loose too much money as only used once. Keep trying to wear them in, or get them heat moulded.

What would you recommend? I'm going down the snow next weekend again.

Cheers,
Tom

P.S aside from the toes, the boots felt perfect, nice and snug. I've tried doing them up tighter now, to see if that helps with the toe jamming, but they are starting to hurt from tightness.

timmytard 07-05-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmiddled (Post 1744001)
Hi All,

I recently bought a pair of 32 lashed size 8 boots online (yeah, I know big mistake. But cheapest pair here in Australia was >$300 and they cost $130 inc. shipping from US, so I took the gamble).

When I first tried them on I was stoked as I thought they fit perfect, but then did my first day on the slopes with them last week and my big toe on my front foot, and second toe on my back foot absolutely killed by the end of the day from digging into the end of the boot whilst riding heel side.

So, now back from riding:

So when I take the inner out, and they seem to fit nice and snug - my toes don't even touch the end.

When I put the whole boot on and bend my knees, my toes barely touch the end (no pain at all).

When I stand completely straight, there is a decent bit of pressure on the toes.

When I lean back on my heels and point my toes down, there is quite a lot of pressure on my big toes. I have done them up really tight now so not as much pressure as when I was riding, but it is still quite a bit, and I think after a few hours it would start to hurt.

My heel slightly comes off as my foot slides forward a bit when leaning back.

So, are they definitely too small? I am usually a size 8 or 9 shoe. I hired size 8 K2 boots in Japan and they were fine, maybe even a tad too loose.

I guess I have three options. Sell on ebay now. I don't think I would loose too much money as only used once. Keep trying to wear them in, or get them heat moulded.

What would you recommend? I'm going down the snow next weekend again.

Cheers,
Tom

P.S aside from the toes, the boots felt perfect, nice and snug. I've tried doing them up tighter now, to see if that helps with the toe jamming, but they are starting to hurt from tightness.

Sounds to me, like they fit perfect.

Maybe even too big still?

Your foot shouldn't move around in your boot, at all.

Boots have forward lean built into them.
You're not supposed to stand up straight in them:dizzy:

If you they hurt & your toes hit the end when you force yourself to stand up straight.

Maybe they're not too big:unsure:

Just get them heat molded, they used a toe cap made out of wetsuit material.
they stick it over your toes, you stick your foot in the boot.

It molds to the size of your foot with the toe cap on.

Remove toe cap & you're left with that much room after.


TT

kosmoz 07-05-2014 01:55 AM

Looks like you dont know how to tie them up and you foot is sliding while you ride.

tmiddled 07-05-2014 02:47 AM

Yeah, it does slide a little bit, but I have tried tying as tight as they go, and they still slide a little bit, not to mention my foot cramps up after 20 minutes when they are so tight.

Maybe heat moulding like TT said will improve the fit so they don't slide forward.

davidj 07-05-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmiddled (Post 1744041)
Yeah, it does slide a little bit, but I have tried tying as tight as they go, and they still slide a little bit, not to mention my foot cramps up after 20 minutes when they are so tight.

Maybe heat moulding like TT said will improve the fit so they don't slide forward.

  1. If you are using just the stock/factory insoles in your boot, try some after-market insoles with better arch support first
  2. If that's not enough, try heat molding
  3. If all else fails, size up. I had a very similar situation to you. It confused me. Was my boot too small or was it too large? In a nutshell, my boots were too small and too soft. I sized up from a US10 to a US11. While it felt like one size too large in the toe box (in my riding stance, my toes pretty much swim around without even touching the nose of the boot), the foot completely stopped moving around in my boot. This made all the difference. The stiffer boot was also more responsive :yahoo:

tmiddled 07-07-2014 04:11 AM

Hey,

Thanks again for the responses, I have a pair of custom footbeds.

I have tried them in the new boots and I think they have helped. It stops my foot sliding forward a little bit, my toes still touch the end when I lean back, but not with as much force, I don't think it would hurt after extended time.

I never used to wear the foot beds as they always hurt my arches, which are starting to hurt now after 20 minutes on my foot just in the loungeroom.

I'm going down this weekend, so that'll be a good test. I'm worried though that if my arches hurt now with them in, they will be really sore on the slopes.

ETM 07-07-2014 04:24 AM

The boots sound perfect to me. Once fully moulded to your foot you should be able to nip them up a bit tighter which should stop your foot moving around

tmiddled 07-07-2014 05:59 AM

Any other tricks to stopping the foot sliding forward a bit? Aside from the obvious tightening the laces of course, which I tried.

That is how I think the footbeds helped, but after an hour with them on my arches were killing me. It will be even worse on the slopes no doubt...

neni 07-07-2014 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmiddled (Post 1744970)
Any other tricks to stopping the foot sliding forward a bit?

get boots that fit...? ;)



Quote:

Originally Posted by tmiddled (Post 1744001)
So when I take the inner out, and they seem to fit nice and snug - my toes don't even touch the end.


What exactly do you mean when you say "fit nice and snug"? Boots can fit in many aspects... the hight and width at wrist, the length, hight of boot leg, tightness around ancle. All of these areas fit nice and snug? Sounds as if your boot is too wide/high around ancle/arch, where the boot should hold your foot in position. If width/tightness around ancle/arch is too wide for your foot, your'll slip forward and you have to compensate by tightening them hard around the ancle/wrist, which easily can lead to cramps cos you can't fully compensate a too loose boot that actually doesn't fit your foot well.

Ricardo64 07-07-2014 08:31 AM

32 make great boots. I swear by them and buy mine religiously over the net. I have a pair of 32 lashed and 32 Prime. 32 are renowned for their wide boot, that's why I love them I have a wide foot.

How ever when you put your boot on you need to Kick your heel on the ground a couple of times, pushing your foot to the back of the boot. Now start the lacing process. heres a youtube for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB5tfLE_J6I


It doesn't sound like the boots are too small. Might be that Neni has a point and that you have a skinny foot for the boot. Try a pair of thicker socks with the toe cut out.

Better yet.... get them heat moulded the shop tech heads will be able see and to tell you for sure what's going on (after all we can only steer you in the right direction from what your explaining to us)..... don't blame the boots they're great :10:


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