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Old 07-13-2014, 10:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I bought cheap Burton mOtos and so regreted it. For 1st 2 weeks boots were great, but then their cheap liner started to give up, right where toes flexes and it was so painfull to ride in them that for next season I will buy new boots for at least 300$

How is your boots liner, any defects or grease on it?
I think you're missing the point here,.. we're talking about "Custom" boot liners/footbeds!! Why buy another pair of $300.00+ boots when/if you can fix the issue with a set of custom footbeds? Especially since those new boots will still come with cheap shitty footbeds???

My custom molded footbeds cost me around $120! At the time I thought that was a ridiculous price as the pair of 32 ST Boa's I was putting them in only cost me $130! But I was having all sorts of foot pain issues and I needed to do something. I got a no questions return guarantee on those liners from the shop manager and figured, what the hell!

BEST BOOT/GEAR FIT INVESTMENT I'VE MADE TO DATE!!!

(…shout out another sincere "Thank You" to BA & his boot fitting expertise!!!)
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Old 07-13-2014, 01:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think you're missing the point here,.. we're talking about "Custom" boot liners/footbeds!! Why buy another pair of $300.00+ boots when/if you can fix the issue with a set of custom footbeds? Especially since those new boots will still come with cheap shitty footbeds???

My custom molded footbeds cost me around $120! At the time I thought that was a ridiculous price as the pair of 32 ST Boa's I was putting them in only cost me $130! But I was having all sorts of foot pain issues and I needed to do something. I got a no questions return guarantee on those liners from the shop manager and figured, what the hell!

BEST BOOT/GEAR FIT INVESTMENT I'VE MADE TO DATE!!!

(…shout out another sincere "Thank You" to BA & his boot fitting expertise!!!)

I think you missed the part where BA did mention it can be a liner issue also.

Boot fitting sometimes does require more than getting a custom insole made. Sometimes the liner needs to be modified, or sometimes you just bought the wrong boot.

Though my insoles coated me nearly $500 which includes other failed attempts. The one I went to took a mold of my feet (and took a lot of measurements) and a few days later, made me a custom orthotic specific to my boots and feet (I had to leave my boots with him).
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If you buy a cheap boot like the Burton Moto don't bitch and moan when it breaks down. There's a reason it's cheap.

As far as liner issues this is where having a competent boot fitter comes in. I can't tell you how many times I've opened up a liner to pull out foam or cut flex point into it. Duct tape truly is one of the greatest tools for boot fitting.
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I think you missed the part where BA did mention it can be a liner issue also.

Boot fitting sometimes does require more than getting a custom insole made. Sometimes the liner needs to be modified, or sometimes you just bought the wrong boot.
No, I didn't miss that, but I did focus on the statement for "new" $300 boots as a probable/possible "fix!" Moto's may actually be cheap, crummy boots. I wouldn't know. I am very aware that a good fit encompasses a multitude of variables. I can't wear ANY Vans boots. Something about the design of the boots soles just didn't work with my feet. Every pair I tried bothered my feet as soon as I stood up in them. Every pair of Vans, every model I tried! So I also have experience that sometimes? It is just the boot.

I bought and returned 3-5 different pairs of boots before I settled on my 32's. And even tho they were by far the best fitting, comfortable boots I had ridden? I still had some major foot pain issues. I had the liners heat molded. Tried loose lacing, tight lacing, socks, aftermarket Superfeet insoles,.. Nothing worked well enough to keep me from needing to unstrap my board and boots every 3-4 runs to give my feet some relief.

Part of "my" problem was also a result of a bad fit for my board and binders. (...a wide board and L bindings for 10.5 boots!). I was learning all this the spring of '11. Riding ice and snowcrete! In order to get that board up on edge I was cranking myself into those boots n bindings sooo tight, it's a wonder my feet didn't die from lack of circulation and necrosis!!

So there's another possible variable in the boot fit / foot pain equation! What I'm saying is that even after finding the best solution for ALL of the above issues? I still had more than some small amount of foot pain/discomfort issues. Maybe 55-70% of the problems still remained. They final solution for me in this entire equation was the custom molded footbed. After that, 90-95% of my foot pain disappeared.

At this point I have to consider that the final 5-10% of my foot pain,...? Is just caused by my utterly fucked up feet!!! . There's yet another very real and possible variable to consider in all this!

If I've learned nothing else from hanging around in this forum, or from BA's boot fitting advice? It's that often, none of this is a simple "one trick fix!" That and that new $300 boots are not always the best solution!

Best of luck to the OP! Keep bangin' away at it. You'll find something that works eventually!
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