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Old 11-07-2014, 05:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Have a pair of Deeluxe Spark XV boots on my feet... and they fit. Which on one side, make me feel like yelling “heureka, that’s what I always was talking about!", there are worlds in terms of flex between them and the "stiffest" women's boots... but it also makes me suspicious if I’m missing something...

In the last 10y, I had Burton Emerald, K2 Contour and now Ride Cadence - the stiffest women's boots of each brand. But I always had the impression that they are fairly soft. In all the local shops the same info: “That's the stiffest women's boot we have” – “I have that one, it's not stiff at all. Are there others “ – “Yes, get hardboots” – “ Common, there must be something between these stiffest (but softish) women’s softboots and hardboots!?” – “Nope” - "men's boots?" - "they wouldn't fit, too wide and pinch your calves".

Recently concentrated more on BC riding, a new issue occurred: the soles of “normal” softboots are too soft to make steps in crusted snow when booting in BC and are pretty slippery on hardpack. Inspired by Ridinbend mentioning the Fitwell Backcountry boot (which unluckily isn’t produced in my size) I began to search for a BC suitable softboot for women. Fail. But I found the Deeluxe Spark XV, which are produced in small sizes. Intrigued by them, I asked the local shop specialized on split gear about them but they said that they scratched them from the assortment cos ppl didn't like them, too bulky to fit into the same binding size one has with "normal" boots...

I found a last year’s model online and ordered them – more out of pure curiosity. Well, they fit into all my bindings, they aren’t too wide, fit my feet well, no heel lift even when only tightened pretty loose, have the solid soles for hitting steps in crusts. They feel stiff even when only tightened pretty loose, they also don't pinch my calves wearing them now at home - their boot legs have the same height as my Ride Cadence’s. The other men's boots I've tried in shops did bite immediately when leaning backwards. Is that good enough? Will they also not pinch when riding or hiking? How can I test that?.

Going from a stiff women's boot (which IMO equals to mid-soft) to this stiff Deeluxe seems quite a step... should I start a new Odyssey trying to find a mid-stiff men’s boots in my size hoping that small ones won't calve-bite? but I'd need to order them online cos local shops don't supply my size... but actually I like them Deeluxe boots due to the solid sole suitable for BC, which would be an issue with "normal" men's boots again... and then the big general question picking my mind... if such boots don't exist for women, there might be a reason for that...? but there are also no split bindings made for women, only 2 such BC boots seem to exist for men, so it might be just too new, a number/marked thing..?



Am I opening a new Pandora’s box? Any hint is highly appreciated. Any of you know of women’s using these Deeluxe boots? Other thoughts?

Edit: just called Deeluxe for info on the liners and they mentioned btw that the boot is not a men's boot, it's "unisex". hmmm... maybe that's why they don't pinch...

Edit: happy ending @ post 36. Went with the '15 Spark XV size 25.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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uhmmm...why not switch to an at hardboot set up? I've toyed with the idea...but not that far in deep into bc...but if progress to that point... it seems to be the setup.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If your gonna pursue a stiff men's boot, try the burton driver x. I have tried those deeluxe boots and they're not small, or light, IMO. I have spent the last two seasons of Salomon Malamutes, which I love and I have sensitive feet. I honestly could never wear a hard boot. But that's just me. The Driver X felt super light and super stiff, and were comfortable to me. If your gonna spend the money, yet what you want. I will always be a soft boot splitboarder.

I have a buddy that bought the TRice DC double boa, and he retightens on every run. I don't think I want to pay the money and not have the boa stay, that would suck.

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Old 11-07-2014, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You seem to ride boards larger than what would be suggested for your size (from what I gather reading your posts) so it would make sense to ride a stiff boot to get the best response from those boards.

You have the Deeluxe in hand, why not try them? You seem to know exactly what you want, just haven't been able to find it yet.
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If your gonna pursue a stiff men's boot, try the burton driver x. I have tried those deeluxe boots and they're not small, or light, IMO. I have spent the last two seasons of Salomon Malamutes, which I love and I have sensitive feet. I honestly could never wear a hard boot. But that's just me. The Driver X felt super light and super stiff, and were comfortable to me. If your gonna spend the money, yet what you want. I will always be a soft boot splitboarder.

I have a buddy that bought the TRice DC double boa, and he retightens on every run. I don't think I want to pay the money and not have the boa stay, that would suck.
I feel like skinning just DESTROYS snowboard boots(buy all my shit on clearance) , not like that's going to stop me but they clearly were not designed to last with heavy BC use versus someone someone who purely rides resort.
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To be completely honest, I don't get the whole stiff = better for gnarly terrain and/or high speeds. I mean, it does to a certain point, but there gets to be a point where to me stiffer just equals less fun. Obviously you're not going to want to bomb serious terrain on a pure jib board, but IMO, once you get past mid-stiff, it's just starting to take away from the fun and starts to deaden the feel. As always, that's just my opinion and your mileage may vary.
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You have the Deeluxe in hand, why not try them? You seem to know exactly what you want, just haven't been able to find it yet.
Now I still can return them. The boots cost a fair amount thus I try to be less insecure
And I'm insecure if I want to keep them '14 ones or get the '15 ones or don't get them at all... I have no experience with this type of boots and thus was looking for hints. (Need to order onlinefrom a neighbor country cos they are not available in my size in my country which means shipping costs )
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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We just got some of the spark xv also to try out. They are almost as stiff as a hardboot.... Pretty comfortable and seem like they will be responsive when strapped in. did have to adjust our bindings out a bit but Damn, I love stiff boots. These are stiff enough that I'd call them super stiff. I have never flexed a boot like it. my talons are a mid flex in my eyes.
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Old 11-07-2014, 07:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Reading your post on hitting those narrow chutes it's quite worth the cost of those Spark boots...

Intuition moldable liners come in thin, medium, and high density.

High density liner can fill space if the Spark boot is to large.

The thin density liner helps if the Spark boot is to tight as well.

These liners can make it work if the fit is off... check out there web-site

IMHO better a larger boot and fill with the high density liner.
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Why dont you go for a hike in then and see how they feel?
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