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Old 04-22-2009, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Over the past few years, I have frequently visited, googled, and searched boarding forums to relieve foot pain. The problem is, it gets sooo bad I have to take 10-15 minute rests at times, or a major pain killer to enjoy boarding. Here are the symptoms and things I've tried to get rid of the problem.

Symptoms:

I'm fine at first, longer runs and I start getting excruciating pain near the arches/middle of my feet. It basically feels like both of my feet are going through a major foot cramp, even though they aren't.

Boots:

Different pairs, sizes, etc: 1 Soloman, 2 pairs of K2s, baked the inner lining, tried wearing looser, tried making the lining looser, wearing them a bit tighter, etc.

Bindings:

Shitty 1st board bindings, to Flows, to Ride SPIs and Ride Alpha Movement. No major difference in Bindings. I've adjusted front and rear angles and backings (front rear from +/- 25 to 15/0, no relief) and (backings up to 45%, no relief).

Boards:

Arbor Mystic, Ride DH.

Inserts:

I've tried both Surefeet and $250 custom inserts, neither of which have helped.

I'm starting to think the boots are my problem, but if anyone has had something similar to where they seriously sometimes had to sit down during a run and stop for a bit because their feet were hurting so much that would help. Another thing I've noticed is terrain that requires a lot of turns or navigating causes me the biggest foot problems (moguls, tree runs, etc).
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Greetings mr007

Sounds like you've taken a lot of steps to try and alleviate your pain but have you actually seen a professional about it? You mentioned custom orthotics so that let's me know you've at least seen an orthotist which is good but how about a physical therapist, podiatrist or ortho who specializes in feet?

You definitely took the time to explain and describe your condition but there are a lot of other factors that are omitted such as your current age, weight, posture (flat footed vs. extremely high arches, structure of your feet/ankles (ankle mobility/sub-talar mobility, Achilles tendon flexibility, what other activities/condition aggravate your discomfort, what relieves it etc. which all could have an effect on your pain.

But you didn't ask for a lecture on going to see a health professional so with just your description it sounds a lot like plantar fasciitis.

Google treatment for plantar fasciitis and follow the most common therapies and see if that helps.

Also, I'm sure the person who made the orthotics for you probably instructed you on a wearing schedule because if you simply stuck it in for the first time and used it for several hours right off the bat, that's only asking for more pain.

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Old 04-22-2009, 03:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My apologies for not adding more details. I have seen a podiatrist as well, who recommended surefoot and then sent me on to be checked for TMJ (at first I thought she was brilliant, now I think she's retarded).

Age: 29
Weight: 150
Posture: Pretty flat footed
Feet/Ankles: Flexible, no real issues there

As far as other activities are concerned, sometimes I get mild discomfort playing basketball, but I'd say it's hardly noticeable and I'd consider my playing style pretty intense. On the slopes, removing my feet from my boots alleviates the pain, removing the bindings and loosening my boots also relieves pain.

The person who created the orthotics actually said I should have instant relief, so that is definitely an issue as well.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know you've already mentioned that you tried loosening up the boots, but are you sure you're not tightening up the bindings to compensate? I just find it confusing you find instant comfort the second you remove your feet from the boots or you loosen the bindings/boots.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I have definitely done the same with the bindings, sorry for not mentioning.

I forgot to mention that there are times when I don't really have any problems and that's when the snow is pretty good and I don't have to give a lot of effort into turning. Like I said before, the more difficult the terrain is for me to navigate the more noticeable it is on my feet. If I'm just bombing down a run that doesn't require me to put much effort into turning/maneuvering, the problem pretty much goes away. I would figure it'd be kinda like that for everyone who has my type of problem though.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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whats the flex rating on your boots?you might just want to get more supportive boots.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not a doctor, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently. You sound like you have the classic signs of having plantar fasciitis. Google it. I have heard of many athletic friends of mine having this problem. Some of which have caused problems for as many as two years. Strengthening and exercise are the only ways of helping the problems. I had a discussion just two days ago about Plantar Fasciitis with a friend that is very active in sports. He injured himself while playing basketball in a pair of running shoes and now has problems with his left foot every time he puts stress on it, such as playing baseball. He's only 28 and played college baseball, so it can happen to very athletic people.

Good Luck with it. I'm sure it's very painful from what I've heard.
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I'm not a doctor, but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently. You sound like you have the classic signs of having plantar fasciitis. Google it. I have heard of many athletic friends of mine having this problem. Some of which have caused problems for as many as two years. Strengthening and exercise are the only ways of helping the problems. I had a discussion just two days ago about Plantar Fasciitis with a friend that is very active in sports. He injured himself while playing basketball in a pair of running shoes and now has problems with his left foot every time he puts stress on it, such as playing baseball. He's only 28 and played college baseball, so it can happen to very athletic people.

Good Luck with it. I'm sure it's very painful from what I've heard.
Honestly I don't think that's the issue. I'm not affected by playing other sports and it's not the heel of my foot that has pain.
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Sounds possible that your boots just dont fit properly and you are overcompensating by overtightening your boots and bindings.
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Over the past few years, I have frequently visited, googled, and searched boarding forums to relieve foot pain. The problem is, it gets sooo bad I have to take 10-15 minute rests at times, or a major pain killer to enjoy boarding. Here are the symptoms and things I've tried to get rid of the problem.

Symptoms:

I'm fine at first, longer runs and I start getting excruciating pain near the arches/middle of my feet. It basically feels like both of my feet are going through a major foot cramp, even though they aren't.

Boots:

Different pairs, sizes, etc: 1 Soloman, 2 pairs of K2s, baked the inner lining, tried wearing looser, tried making the lining looser, wearing them a bit tighter, etc.

Bindings:

Shitty 1st board bindings, to Flows, to Ride SPIs and Ride Alpha Movement. No major difference in Bindings. I've adjusted front and rear angles and backings (front rear from +/- 25 to 15/0, no relief) and (backings up to 45%, no relief).

Boards:

Arbor Mystic, Ride DH.

Inserts:

I've tried both Surefeet and $250 custom inserts, neither of which have helped.

I'm starting to think the boots are my problem, but if anyone has had something similar to where they seriously sometimes had to sit down during a run and stop for a bit because their feet were hurting so much that would help. Another thing I've noticed is terrain that requires a lot of turns or navigating causes me the biggest foot problems (moguls, tree runs, etc).
Evidently in your searches you've never found a forum where I've answered this question numerous times.

What's going on is you're flat footed and don't have metatarsal arch support, you have traditional arch support. So when you start riding the arch is collapsing and that's where the pain is coming from.

Any time a specialist recommends Surefoot (or as we call it Sore Foot) they should be pimp slapped. They have the name, they've been around forever, but they don't make a solid product. Go see a ski boot specialist, find one that has been doing it for at least 10 years. Find someone that's going to build the footbed from the ground up. Be prepared for multiple visits to see them.

I'm also going to suggest that the boots are probably a hair too big and your foot is sliding forward a bit, this can cause that problem as well. Riding with the boot loose is only adding to the problem. You need the boot to be snug, if it's loose your foot is just sliding around in there again.

The other thing can be where the internal harness sits on the foot.
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