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Old 12-07-2014, 12:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Im hoping someone here has an idea for me.

I have a pair of 32 Focus BOA boots. I like the boots but I am getting some foot pain on the top and bottom of my feet when I board. They are size 9. Also, I have wide feet which is why I went 32 to begin with.

I went to my local board shop and they sized my feet and told me I size at an 8 - they think I am getting the foot pain because the boots are too big.

I tried many different boots in size 8 and 8.5...all feel too small. My toes are pushing up hard against the front on some, and they are squeezing my foot and ankle uncomfortably on the side with others.

I recently tried 32 Focus in 8.5 and my toes are really jammed hard against the front. I tried Ride Jackson and Lasso - both very tight on the side of my feet. The 8.5 Lasso felt very snug against my toes but MAYBE would have been passable if not for the squeeze from the sides.

So I am back to thinking that for some reason, despite my foot measuring close to 8, boots smaller than 9 dont fit, but the 9's are causing some foot pain they attribute to too large a boot.

Any thoughts on what I can do here? Any way to more comfortably jam my foot into an 8.5? Any way to adjust the 9 to make it work better and prevent the foot pain, since it fits my toes most comfortably?

Im out of ideas!
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I believe that model is supposed to have a heat moldable intuition liner. You didn't mention if you had this process done or not. If you didn't get the boot liner heat-molded yet, I suggest you do and see if this changes anything for you.
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Old 12-07-2014, 01:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't necessarily trust any of that sizing being done in shoe stores or shops. I am a 10.5. That's what I wear in streets, boots, dress shoes, tennis, etc. I do NOT measure as having a wide foot on any of those measuring devices stores use. However I cannot squeeze my foot into a 10.5 shoe or boot that isn't at least an E width and I prefer a EE/EEE for best fit. (…I believe I have a very high volume instep. That's part of that issue.)

I had a HUGE amount of foot pain in the beginning. Mostly along the balls of my feet and some across the top and instep. It was severe enough that had it continued without any relief? I probably would have given up on boarding altogether!

I went thru 3 pairs of boots before I finally settled on the 32's as the most comfortable fit. Even so, that only made things about 40-50% better comfortwise. Part of this pain problem was caused by just being a NooB and thinking I needed to strap my feet in WAY too tight to both the boots (boa's) and binders! At first I could barely manage to keep my lead foot strapped in for more than a run or two before I needed to unstrap, loosen, and sometimes even remove the boots entirely to eliminate the pain.

I got some good advice on the hill to wear the boots a bit looser than FULL ON cranked down and if I needed a bit more locked in feeling for riding? Go tighter on the bindings instead, since they are easy enough to loosenn a click or two between runs anyways. That improved things maybe another 10-15% immediately.

The final advice that did the most for relieving my foot discomfort was to spring for a set of custom molded foodbeds from Sidas. Like these Here! I was skeptical because those thin looking little insoles cost just as much as my boots did. ...I wasn't willing to spend that until I got a guarantee from the manager that if they didn't help, I could return them. (I didn't!!) These made a World of difference in my comfort. I won't ever be without these in my boots again.

That got me up to 90-95% pain free. Now I think maybe the last 5-10% just needs to be chalked up to being an old fart and 50 years of abusing my feet!

So, If you haven't done so already? Get a proper heat molding of your boots liners done, and then get some sort of quality after market insoles. If not an expensive Custom set like mine, then one of the better commercial insoles like superfeet or better yet, Remind!
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Old 12-07-2014, 03:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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32 focus boas, got 2 pairs...they work great. 4 things

don't heat will take 6-8 days of riding...and then they will feel like slippers.

get to good and well fitting insoles/footbeds....the pains ya got sound like insole issuse.

you will figure out to keep the foot looser and the cuff tighter

look at the boot faq
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My feet hurt the first 10 days of solid riding. Nothing fixes that because of the way you use your foot to ride, there is no way to imitate the exercise to be prepared. my feet will still hurt on a hard groomer day.

When my feet hurt I will rest for 10 or 20 minutes then they are good.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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boots need to break in, but so do the feet. and there's only one way to do that...

got new 32's too. wore them around the house and walked my dog in them for a week, and today was the first day in 'em. like Wrathful said, slippers. No heatmolding done yet, and i'm thinking to not even bother

also, don't bother asking shop guys anything, ask here
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Guys - wow thanks for so many responses. Really appreciate it.

I probably should have pointed out that I have been riding these boots for 3 seasons already. I only get around 8-10 days a season but still, should be broken in by now. I also have Superfeet insoles, but maybe custom is worth a try.

I think trying not to dial in too much on the boots and using the bindings might be a helpful tip. I just got new bindings (Burton Genesis) which Ive heard are REALLY comfortable so maybe that will help too.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I had 32 focus boa boots as well and I thought they were great for my wide feet. I was wrong.

I'm on DC Judges now and they are wide enough for my feet. DC's toe box is wider than 32.

If you have superfeet insoles, which ones did you get? If you got the green or blue, it's not really helping your feet. You may need the red ones or whichever ones are lower profile.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Im pretty sure I have blue - its what my Board shop recommended.

What makes you think they arent helping?
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You want to try insoles with lower profile/ volume, the green and blues increase the volume/profile.

I tried blue, greens, and carbon. The carbon ones gave me less pain.

Try that or it could be that the 32 boots don't fit your feet.
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