i think they are a 2 on burtons stiffness scale. they handflexed in the store real easy. prolly hard to beat for the price. but all the message boards will say the same thing "it doesn't matter how they look or how much they are, all that matters is if the fit properly". I'll admit, walking around in boots in the store is totally different than having them on for a few runs. I know there are some really good boot fit guides around. If you find that they fit, use them for a season or two and keep your eyes open for others that fit your foot properly. just my opinion.