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Bad Foot Pain

I've been having really bad foot pain in my right (front) foot. I currently have Burton Starstruck Boa in 7.5. I was measured by a reputable shop so I'm pretty sure they are the right size. I'm not getting any pain in my left foot while I'm riding, but after I get home my foot is a bit sore. Not sure if it matters but my bindings are Burton Stillettos at 18/-12.

When I go to my toe side the arch of my foot immediately starts hurting, and almost feels like the arch of my foot is trying to do all the work to keep my board on edge (does that make sense at all?). My foot does arch up a bit when I am on my toe side but it isn't slipping around in the boot. I can only make it down the bunny slope without having the sit down from the pain. Areas where I'm stuck on my toe edge for a longer period of time are awful. The more I ride the more I have to rest, and at the end of the day the pain starts happening even if I'm just walking.

First insoles I tried were Sole high volume that I bought for the first boots I bought that were too big. The high volume was causing my circulation to get cut off with these boots so I exchanged them for the low volume. No more circulation issues but still having the pain. I decided to try out a pair of green Superfeet, which were the ones I was using today. They weren't any better, possibly worse actually.

I've tried making my boots tighter and looser, same with my bindings. I've been riding 2-3 times a week since I started late February. The pain has only been getting worse.

I have a pair of custom orthotics that were made for me maybe ~7 years ago after I had my last tendon surgery. I think the thought was they would help take the stress off my Achilles but I never ended up using them much (I was a teen and they weren't comfortable!). I was thinking of giving them a try, but they aren't full length so I wasn't sure if that would work for snowboarding. Comparing them to the green Superfeet it looks like the arch on the orthotics is much higher.

Any suggestions? I just want to be able to figure this out before the end of the season.
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I was measured by a reputable shop so I'm pretty sure they are the right size.
Hi FR,

Let's see if we can help you figure this out. Because I haven't pasted this yet today :

Please measure your foot using this method:

Kick your heel (barefoot please, no socks) back against a wall. Mark the floor exactly at the tip of your toe (the one that sticks out furthest - which toe this is will vary by rider). Measure from the mark on the floor to the wall. That is your foot length and is the only measurement that you will want to use. Measure in centimeters if possible, but if not, take inches and multiply by 2.54 (example: an 11.25 inch foot x 2.54 = 28.57 centimeters).
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Right foot measures at 24.0, left measured slightly larger at 24.1. Using your tool it looks like I should have a 7 for my right foot? I can't imagine going down a half size. My toes were tight to the front of the boot, almost curling, before they packed out and I can still feel the front of the boot with my toes.

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Right foot measures at 24.0, left measured slightly larger at 24.1. Using your tool it looks like I should have a 7 for my right foot? I couldn't possibly imagine going down a half size. My toes were tight to the front of the boot, almost curling, before they packed out. I can still feel the front of the boot with my toes, and they are a pain to put on and take off.
Hi Rose,

Right. You will likely be best suited with a size 7 (women's, correct?). You want to have firm pressure with your toes and heels into the compliant materials of the liner. Simply feeling the front is too large.

Let's confirm. Please pull the stock Burton inserts from your boot liners, stand on them barefoot with your heels back in the heel recess and snap some full foot photos.


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First 2 pictures are right, last is the left.


I forgot to mention I have wide feet. I noticed that my pinky toes on both feet are completely overhanging the inserts, and the side of my feet are overhanging as well. When I was first breaking the boots in my pinky toe on my left foot kept getting pinched between the insole and the liner but that has stopped happening.
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Regular orthotics are made for walking, not a "fixed" foot sport.

My suggestion is find a good boot fitter who also has pedorthist certification.

They can cost a little more, and sometimes they may say you bought the wrong boot.


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First 2 pictures are right, last is the left.


I forgot to mention I have wide feet. I noticed that my pinky toes on both feet are completely overhanging the inserts, and the side of my feet are overhanging as well. When I was first breaking the boots in my pinky toe on my left foot kept getting pinched between the insole and the liner but that has stopped happening.
Thank for those photos. Got it!

That boot is too long and not wide enough. This will always perform poorly and create comfort issues. We need to get you into a men's boot (wider last) and we need to downsize you to your mondo size. Until we do that, the structures of your foot will never align with the structures of the boot. Insert/footbed/orthotic choice will never fix this. Of equal importance, you are squeezing your foot into too narrow a space which will also create the pain you are experiencing. I need two more measurements from you (that will be it, I promise ).

Please measure your barefoot width (both feet) and please measure the Burton insert from toe to heel straight down the mid-line.


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Insert is 24cm down the midline. Right foot width looks like 9.7 cm and left is 9.8 cm, assuming I did that right.

I'm not opposed to mens boots, but they generally run taller right? I'm only 5' so I'm worried a mens boot will cut me too high on the calf.
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Insert is 24cm down the midline. Right foot width looks like 9.7 cm and left is 9.8 cm, assuming I did that right.

I'm not opposed to mens boots, but they generally run taller right? I'm only 5' so I'm worried a mens boot will cut me too high on the calf.
Yup. Your boot is a full cm too long and significantly too narrow. You have a Men's EE width at 24.0 cm (240 Mondo, Men's size 6, Women's 7). There are no women's boots that are even close to that wide in your mondo size. In fact there is only one boot on the market that is designed for EE (it is EEE). The Burton Ruler Wide. You will gain 2 cm in width. Fortunately, they make it in size 6. The cuff will be a bit different than your current boot (images below).

PS: As always, you will need to get them heat fit.


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in addition to the boot sizing, you should also try out dancer pads. they're $10 on amazon.

Arch pain is usually a canting problem and the dancer pads can fix that. Try them on both sides to try to find out which way works best (not both feet, both both sides of one foot. you'll understand when you see the pads)

I won't board without them.

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