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Old 01-04-2010, 09:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Traditional laces will always be more secure in my opinion. Once you get your laces tightened and knotted properly, you don't have to mess with them for the rest of the day. The greatest benefit from BOA that I see is the ability to loosen them up while you are relaxing in the lounge without having to worry about taking the time to re-tighten the laces. BOA is like the FLOWs of the lacing world. Still want to try those BOA focus boots. Dunno, I really like my traditional laces though
But you've never even tried on a pair of BOA boots, correct? You really ought to try on a pair before you declare laces superior.
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Oh I guess I might have come across that way that I dont like new tech, but thats not true. I just like the feel of my mtx dark series better than the btx version, mind you I have never tried the C2 yet. And I dont even know if Northwave makes the decade boot in a boa, but when I'm spending $350 on boots there going to have laces because I trust laces more than BOA.
I mostly freeride and if I do hit the park it's only for the pipe. For my riding style sweet pop trumps better float and easier butters. Dont get me wrong I would love to have a rocker for certain days, but not every day. I definetly am not cheap when it comes to my gear, but I guess I am an old man set in my ways.
freshy, have you ever even tried on a pair of dual-BOA boots? If not, do you think you're maybe being a bit closed-minded about them?
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X2. It is really easy to get laces dialed in.
How about you SnoRidr, have you tried on dual BOA's and still found laces superior?
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But you've never even tried on a pair of BOA boots, correct? You really ought to try on a pair before you declare laces superior.
I have tried on plenty of BOA boots, but they were older models. Those sucked ass. I am very open to trying the newer BOA Focus boots though. In fact, for my next boot I am 90% going that route.

By the way, BOA Focus = two BOA wheels, one for lower and one for upper. Some double BOA boots have two wheels, but one is for the liner.

I am not declaring laces superior. I am just saying they are the most secure. When knotted correctly, they never come loose no matter how much you ride or crash. That is the one common con I hear about even the newer BOAs. They do come loose here and there, but everyone says it is not a big deal at all and the trade-offs are more than worth it since it is super easy to re-adjust.
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I have tried on plenty of BOA boots, but they were older models. Those sucked ass. I am very open to trying the newer BOA Focus boots though. In fact, for my next boot I am 90% going that route.

By the way, BOA Focus = two BOA wheels, one for lower and one for upper. Some double BOA boots have two wheels, but one is for the liner.

I am not declaring laces superior. I am just saying they are the most secure. When knotted correctly, they never come loose no matter how much you ride or crash. That is the one common con I hear about even the newer BOAs. They do come loose here and there, but everyone says it is not a big deal at all and the trade-offs are more than worth it since it is super easy to re-adjust.
BOA's do not loosen up unless you want them to. It's a mechanical ratchet that doesn't slip.
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BOA's do not loosen up unless you want them to. It's a mechanical ratchet that doesn't slip.
I am fully aware of how the system works. More than I care to know actually

Just from stories I heard that people have experienced it loosening up after some crashes and riding. I'm guessing it gets caught on some ice or something and the wheel catches to the unlocked position. Happened to my Flows before too. Nothing is perfect, especially when it comes to mechanical mechanisms.

At any rate, no worries. I still want a pair of BOA boots for my next purchase. In fact, I recommend BOA Focus boots a lot to people. Speed laces are the real enemy here
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:03 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Just to add on backcoutry use and Boa. If and when the Boa system was to fail...more than likely it's not, you can easily tie the steel laces together to hold until you make it to a shop or contact Boa to replace. It's a quick and easy fix. Remember the Boa Reels and laces are guaranteed for life!

http://www.boatechnology.com/guarantee

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I haven't not had any problems with my BOA boots getting loose. I am beating on them in ways that most people don't as I mostly splitboard to get my turns. Which is also the main reason I use the BOA focus system so that I can loosen the uppers for the skin up and tighten them up on the down. Super quick and easy.

That said, laces are tried and true. For some styles of riding they are probably the best option. Also, they are very easy to replace when you break a lace. Not that BOA is hard to replace, but laces are still easier.
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Old 01-04-2010, 10:13 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I agree. Using the Boa Focus system for splitboarding is great. The ability to easily leave the upper and/or lower zone loose or tight can make all the difference on a long skin in to hit a line. It's almost like a "walk" mode in a hard touring boot. Customize!
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How about you SnoRidr, have you tried on dual BOA's and still found laces superior?
I have always stuck with laces. I don't have any personal experience with dual BOA's, sorry. My wife tried the single zone BOA's and she didn't like them. She was experiencing hot spots etc. I think that the dual zone will provide a more "fine tuned" solution to the BOA system, by providing the rider the ability to adjust the upper and lower zones of the boot to taste. I am not too interested in having the ability to tie my boots fast so I never really worried about BOAs. Laces have always been my personal fav. If you use the "hockey skate" lacing technique, you can really cinch them up tight and they will not loosen up. Another thing is, if you are set on BOA lacing you can pretty much cross off 70%-80% of your boot selection. I am a firm believer that the fit of the boot is most important, not necessarily the lacing system, color, brand, etc. I would place the price of the boot as close second to the fit, because budgets should be considered, but overall the fit of the boot is critical so I like to leave all options open when fitting for boots.

Here is a linky to a YouTube video that shows the "hockey skate" lacing method for traditional laced boots if your curious.
YouTube - Snowboard Boot Guide - Traditional Lacing
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