my friend just picked up a pair of 09s, he is very happy with them, our other friend tried them on and walked around in them for a bit and he also liked em. i meant to do the same but i forgot to. i almost ordered some but went with 09 ride deuces because some members here said they were better and fit my ride betas better. check ouit evogear.com and look through the outlet section, they may still have the coupon i used. i just got them less than a month ago.