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Nope just think nike is a bad corp.
Has nike ever had a shoe that sucked be it a running,football,soccer,cross country,basketball, snowboarding or casual shoe, cleat or boot?
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Nope, but they have been caught using child labor time and time again as well as terrible working conditions in their plants.

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Has nike ever had a shoe that sucked be it a running,football,soccer,cross country,basketball, snowboarding or casual shoe, cleat or boot?
Yes..Nike went against millions of years of evolution and changed the way people run. The result is that when you start building up your weekly mileage with modern running shoes, you start suffering from tendon issues, shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. I'd say they really fucked up on that one.... On the other hand, they created a multi-billion dollar industry wear there was none and got very rich.

However, the quality of their products is usually pretty decent.


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Yes..Nike went against millions of years of evolution and changed the way people run. The result is that when you start building up your weekly mileage with modern running shoes, you start suffering from tendon issues, shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. I'd say they really fucked up on that one.... On the other hand, they created a multi-billion dollar industry wear there was none and got very rich.

However, the quality of their products is usually pretty decent.
Well if your saying it was their fault you have to say it was the fault of every shoe company. It also depends on how your running,the length and technique your using to run. I.e. sprinting: a ball of your foot/toe technique, long distance: heel to toe technique.
Do you have a pair of vibram five finger shoes or something similar to that? If not then I don't see why your complaining. You are just supporting a company that is going against what you stand for.

Their quality is always great.
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Traditional running shoes are not optimal for your feet and joints in the legs, something like the vibrams are much better. But the build quality of their products are great and I hope to find out that their snowboard shoes are great as well.
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This is why I have fibram five fingers for being casual and short distance running, reebok zig techs for long distance running and nikes for snowboarding boots haha
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Nope just think nike is a bad corp.
Please explain because I loved to debate with you only my debate will include facts about why they are a great co. and yours will include opinions. probably based off the way their contracted factories treated workers in the past.
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Yes..Nike went against millions of years of evolution and changed the way people run. The result is that when you start building up your weekly mileage with modern running shoes, you start suffering from tendon issues, shin splints, knee problems, back problems, etc. I'd say they really fucked up on that one.... On the other hand, they created a multi-billion dollar industry wear there was none and got very rich.

However, the quality of their products is usually pretty decent.
I know quite a runners who have different factual data. maybe I should bring up Joan Benoit Samuelson who runs 12 miles a day for over 40 years all in Nike's and never had a knee, leg, back, foot problem.


For what it's worth of the 900+ factories Nike uses they don't own any of them.
Now Nike created no such industry, I believe the first shoes came out of the same factory as Asics.

As for child labor bs... Why don't you compare the average age of people working in those countries and the average wage to what those people make. Now these factories might not meet US standards but they don't have too. What people don't want to admit is those kids don't have the same opportunities and standards we have here in America many people are better off working in factories and being able to eat.

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Has nike ever had a shoe that sucked be it a running,football,soccer,cross country,basketball, snowboarding or casual shoe, cleat or boot?
yes. have you ever bought a nike that retailed for less than $80. they suck, hard. with the exception on the run avant. those are sick everyhting else is trash. the expensive stuff is awesome. whenever nike breaks into a new sport it usually only takes them a few seasons to start churning out really good products for it. thier golf stuff was pretty bad for maybe their first 2 years then it got really good and is always getting better. i think they spend more time and money on research and development than most other companies, it sure seems that way when youuse their gear. i plan on getting nike bots next, im excited to see what else they will make for snowboarding and who they will endorse.
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I know quite a runners who have different factual data. maybe I should bring up Joan Benoit Samuelson who runs 12 miles a day for over 40 years all in Nike's and never had a knee, leg, back, foot problem.
Look up Born to Run.

But no really, the human foot is designed to run, it's designed to shock absorb on its own and it certainly doesn't need any help, you are supposed to run with only the front foot touching, just like the sprinters. When people wear running shoes, almost everyone touch with their heels when they run, which doesn't give the same support. That gives hard impacts on each landing all the way up, through the ankle, knee and hip.

Yeah sure, there are people who doesn't get pains, but that doesn't mean that it's an optimal way to run.

Barefoot is the way, or if the surroundings demand it, some kind of protection against glass shards, sharp rocks etc.
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