sorry man but this has to be one of the funniest threads i've ever read! the guy meant the Burton's have a "SHIT-tuition" liner... it's made up. Go with the Ride's.
Most important thing on buying boots IMO, get the ones that fit best. The baddest boots on the planet won't do you any good if they don't fit properly. I wanted those Ride Orion boots, their built well, really light and a great value, but I was between 10 and 11. The Salomons I ended up with fit me better than anything else I tried, and I tried plenty.
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