32 Ultralight or something else???? - Snowboarding Forum

bubbachubba340 · 05-11-2010, 05:59 PM

Im in definate need of some new boots as My thirty-two prospects are dying with one week left in the season and a week at high cascade in about a month

. My local shop has thirty-two ultralights for a decent price(168$), but after my prospects failing im a little scared to get another pair of 32's. My question: Is the quality of the boots in 32's higher price range(ultralights included)better than that of their lower priced boots(prospect)?

If not then Ive also been looking at Burton Hails, Salomon F20's, and K2 Darko Boacondas. Of which I've all heard good reviews, especially of the F20, but may not be able to try them on in a shop. Does anybody know how these boots compare in fit compared to the thirty-two prospects?

York · 05-11-2010, 09:48 PM

I've been using ThirtyTwo Lashed FT since the beginning of March when I retired my DC Judges from last year which had near 100 days on them, and have put almost 40 days on the Lashed and they still look new. I suppose the Lashed would be a higher end boot in their line but I'm not sure how others compare. How are your Prospects dying? Also, are they regular lace?

bubbachubba340 · 05-11-2010, 10:02 PM

They are regular lace. I probably have about 60 days on them. Most of the damage was done by day 20 though. Where the laces are secured to my liners there is foam that is ripping from the liner and the laces are pulling away too, which makes it hard to keep my liners tight. Ive ripped a pair of laces, but thats no biggie. A lace hole at the instep broke and they are wayyyy too packed out. Im constantly having to tighten my boots to avoid heel lift.

York · 05-11-2010, 11:48 PM

That sounds to me like you need new liners. For me the best thing about the Lashed, and I think all ThirtyTwo boots, are the intuition liners, so if you're going to replace those maybe it's better to just buy new boots like you mentioned. Also, since ThirtyTwo boasts their moldable liner across their whole boot line, I wonder if there are actually any differences between the high end boot liners and the low end ones.

It's hard to say for your situation, but I felt my ThirtyTwos were so comfortable I'd probably go with another pair of the same boots after 60 days, as a lot of other boots give me crazy ankle bone pain. I had a bit of heel lift but like you said I think it's just a point of tightening the boots further. I'm a size 10 but I also went to a size 9 for the Lashed because I heard so much about ThirtyTwos packing out. It took a good two weeks for them to start feeling good after feeling like hell.
Perhaps ThirtyTwo will do something if you mention the busted liner stitching? It's always worth a shot I guess.

bubbachubba340 · 05-12-2010, 05:50 PM

Well I do know that some of the higher end 3s's have the lacing for the liner attached to the inside of the boot rather than the outside of the liner, which would probably increase the durability.

York · 05-12-2010, 10:00 PM

Ah true that, the Lashed are that way.

wrathfuldeity · 05-13-2010, 10:25 AM

OP yes. Years ago had pinons (entry), they are no comparison to my old 305's which were great high-end at the time, 4 seasons and then pretty much trashed but still very comfy and keep them as backups; and currently my focus boas are going great with one season on them. I've heard the the ultra lights are a little too light in the durability department. btw they do pack out a bit but then just add self adhesive foam padding where needed, e.g., c's, j's, butterflies and the like.

that_guy · 05-13-2010, 11:04 AM

I tried on the Ultralights from 09-10, and can't really say how durable they are, but although they're stiffer than the debut version last year, they are still way too soft for my liking. The liner seems significantly different from the others in the 32 line, it's covered with this 'mesh' that feels pretty rough.

bubbachubba340 · 05-13-2010, 06:07 PM

Well I'm a guy who rides park probably 95% of the time, so soft doesn't scare me as long as it isn't stupid soft.

bubbachubba340 · 05-14-2010, 09:51 PM

Alright, so i picked up the Nike ZF1s for 175 in white. Theyre super sick. The liners are perfect and the stock insoles have three different densities of foam. Hard on the arch and around the very back of the heel and soft under the ball of your foot and under your heel and everywhere else is medium. They arent very comfortable to wear for a long time, but I'm sure that will change as they break in. Snowboarding Tomorrow!!

05-11-2010, 05:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	32 Ultralight or something else???? Im in definate need of some new boots as My thirty-two prospects are dying with one week left in the season and a week at high cascade in about a month. My local shop has thirty-two ultralights for a decent price(168$), but after my prospects failing im a little scared to get another pair of 32's. My question: Is the quality of the boots in 32's higher price range(ultralights included)better than that of their lower priced boots(prospect)? If not then Ive also been looking at Burton Hails, Salomon F20's, and K2 Darko Boacondas. Of which I've all heard good reviews, especially of the F20, but may not be able to try them on in a shop. Does anybody know how these boots compare in fit compared to the thirty-two prospects?

05-11-2010, 11:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
York Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 79	That sounds to me like you need new liners. For me the best thing about the Lashed, and I think all ThirtyTwo boots, are the intuition liners, so if you're going to replace those maybe it's better to just buy new boots like you mentioned. Also, since ThirtyTwo boasts their moldable liner across their whole boot line, I wonder if there are actually any differences between the high end boot liners and the low end ones. It's hard to say for your situation, but I felt my ThirtyTwos were so comfortable I'd probably go with another pair of the same boots after 60 days, as a lot of other boots give me crazy ankle bone pain. I had a bit of heel lift but like you said I think it's just a point of tightening the boots further. I'm a size 10 but I also went to a size 9 for the Lashed because I heard so much about ThirtyTwos packing out. It took a good two weeks for them to start feeling good after feeling like hell. Perhaps ThirtyTwo will do something if you mention the busted liner stitching? It's always worth a shot I guess. Last edited by York; 05-12-2010 at 12:48 AM.

05-13-2010, 10:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
wrathfuldeity Resident poet Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bham Posts: 2,705	OP yes. Years ago had pinons (entry), they are no comparison to my old 305's which were great high-end at the time, 4 seasons and then pretty much trashed but still very comfy and keep them as backups; and currently my focus boas are going great with one season on them. I've heard the the ultra lights are a little too light in the durability department. btw they do pack out a bit but then just add self adhesive foam padding where needed, e.g., c's, j's, butterflies and the like. __________________ Last edited by wrathfuldeity; 05-13-2010 at 10:28 AM.

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05-11-2010, 09:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
York Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 79	I've been using ThirtyTwo Lashed FT since the beginning of March when I retired my DC Judges from last year which had near 100 days on them, and have put almost 40 days on the Lashed and they still look new. I suppose the Lashed would be a higher end boot in their line but I'm not sure how others compare. How are your Prospects dying? Also, are they regular lace?

05-11-2010, 10:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	They are regular lace. I probably have about 60 days on them. Most of the damage was done by day 20 though. Where the laces are secured to my liners there is foam that is ripping from the liner and the laces are pulling away too, which makes it hard to keep my liners tight. Ive ripped a pair of laces, but thats no biggie. A lace hole at the instep broke and they are wayyyy too packed out. Im constantly having to tighten my boots to avoid heel lift.

05-12-2010, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	Well I do know that some of the higher end 3s's have the lacing for the liner attached to the inside of the boot rather than the outside of the liner, which would probably increase the durability.

05-12-2010, 10:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
York Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 79	Ah true that, the Lashed are that way.

05-13-2010, 11:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
that_guy Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 65	I tried on the Ultralights from 09-10, and can't really say how durable they are, but although they're stiffer than the debut version last year, they are still way too soft for my liking. The liner seems significantly different from the others in the 32 line, it's covered with this 'mesh' that feels pretty rough.

05-13-2010, 06:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	Well I'm a guy who rides park probably 95% of the time, so soft doesn't scare me as long as it isn't stupid soft.

05-14-2010, 09:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	Alright, so i picked up the Nike ZF1s for 175 in white. Theyre super sick. The liners are perfect and the stock insoles have three different densities of foam. Hard on the arch and around the very back of the heel and soft under the ball of your foot and under your heel and everywhere else is medium. They arent very comfortable to wear for a long time, but I'm sure that will change as they break in. Snowboarding Tomorrow!!