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Old 08-02-2010, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone. I finally purchased my first board recently after about 3 years of rental boarding. Admittedly I didn't pay much attention to the waist width of my board when I bought it, just the length. I purchased the 2011 K2 Believer 157 (waist width 251 mm).

Here is a link: K2 Believer Snowboard 2011 : Snowboards | evo

After doing some research recently on which boots bindings I should get, I realized that my boot size may cause some toe drag with the board that I purchased. Although I have not bought boots yet, I have estimated that I will wear a size eleven boot. I have read multiple posts/articles saying that it is recommended that riders with a size 10.5 boot or higher should ride a Mid-wide/Wide board of 255 mm +.

Can anyone tell me if I will be okay with a 251 mm wide board with size eleven boots? If I made sure to purchase the least bulky size 11 boots possible would I be okay? Or should I go for a more mid-wide board?

I have not completely unwrapped the board since it is out of season so I could definitely return/exchange the board.

Thanks for reading and I'd really appreciate any recommendations/advide/help that you can give me!
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IMO, the best thing you can do is get the boots you want and then see if the board will work. If it's easily returnable then it should be no problem for you. A little overhang won't kill you, but a lot might.
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How do you suggest seeing if the board will work once I get the boots without actually taking the board out on the mountain? It's easily returnable now because it is still completely wrapped and all, but I doubt they'd take it back once used.

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I'd ask also for advice at the shop you get your boots at.

That said, if you are going to buy boots, you might look into the Burton ones that reduce your footprint on the board. Also keep in mind that with the binding in place, your foot is going to be elevated several cm relative to the base of the board, and you're also likely to be riding at an angle (20 degrees-ish, maybe less, maybe more) which is also going to reduce the probability of toe drag.
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How do you suggest seeing if the board will work once I get the boots without actually taking the board out on the mountain? It's easily returnable now because it is still completely wrapped and all, but I doubt they'd take it back once used.

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Just get your new boots, shove them into your bindings, then lay your bindings over the plastic on the new board angled roughly in your stance and you should have a feel for how they will be. Between the elevation from your bindings and the actual overhang, you should know if the board will work or not.
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Thanks for the help guys. I definitely will be asking a lot of questions when I go into the shop to get my boots. And I should also add that I do not have my bindings yet either.

I know some boots are made smaller than others, and I'll look for them, but is this also the case for bindings?

And does anyone have suggestions for boots/bindings that are smaller on the board?

Thanks again for all the help
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I wear 11 ThirtyTwos and didn't have any problem with overhang on a Burton X8 which I think the waist was 254mm. But it never hurts to get all the gear together in one place, since your boots might be bigger or smaller footprint, etc.
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I wear 11 ThirtyTwos and didn't have any problem with overhang on a Burton X8 which I think the waist was 254mm. But it never hurts to get all the gear together in one place, since your boots might be bigger or smaller footprint, etc.
How big of a difference does a few millimeters make when it comes to waist width? Would changing from a board with 251 to a board with 255 or so be worth it at all?

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251 is less than 10 inches across at its narrowest point which seems quite narrow to me but then again I've been riding 265s for the last decade. 255 really isn't that much bigger...

At the end of the day we're talking in millimeters, there are 25.4 of them per inch. So the waist difference between your K2 Believer and my NS Legacy, 15mm, is only about 0.6" -- literally the width of my pinky finger.

At size 11, you're right on the cusp of "wide" and if your boots have been made in the last 5 years they probably have a footprint-reduction technology to reduce drag anyways. A pinky finger one way or the other isn't likely to wreck you.

A few things to consider: remember your feet are not at the narrowest point, so you probably get a few mm's more play depending on your stance. Also, the optimal amount of overhang (both heelside & toeside) is not Zero - you need some overhang to be able to apply pressure to your edges effectively.

251 probably be OK.
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