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Just bought the Burton Ions.Couldn't decide 9.5 or 10.Did I make Z right choice :\

Spent about 3 hrs trying on boots. Ended up going with the Burton Ions. Couldn't decide on 9.5 or 10. Here's how each felt:

9.5 - Toes were not curling but they was definitely a good amount of pressure on them. Can barely get any heel lift even if I try. Fits like a glove but start to have pressure on the top of my foot directly to the right of that "line" that runs from the big toe (and all your toes) up the top of your foot after about 15 minutes. I can imagine this would be a bad pressure point when riding. Don't know if I'm wearing them too tight though.

10 - Toes were comfortably grazing the front of the boot (what I imagine it should feel like after being packed out). Definitely a little bit of heel lift and an overall slightly looser feel to the boot.

Two people in the store were telling me I should go with the 10's if I'm having any pain at all in the 9.5's, but they kind of seemed like n00bs and what they were saying seemed opposite to everything I've read on here (boots will take a full season or TWO to pack out, if you have ANY pain they are too small). After like an hour of them pressuring me to get the 10's some guy that's been working there for 15 years comes out and asks what's going on... We tell him and at first he agrees but then he takes the liner out of the boot and has me put my foot in just the shell of the boot... Then puts some wood things behind my foot and tells me he can make the 9.5s work by heatmolding my liners. He thinks the pressure point on the top of my foot is from the back of the boot pushing my feet up ever so slightly too much forward. My gut was the 9.5 to begin with so that sealed the deal. I crossed my fingers and dropped the $540 (tax, socks, and superfeet).

Now I've been wearing them for about 30 mins at home and have the same pressure point on the top of my right foot (although not in the left foot... right foot too tight?). Other than that they fit like f*cking skate shoes. Incredible... But before I get them heat molded and can't return them I wanted to ask you guys what you all thought? I'm already pretty sure I made the right choice, but I really need to be SURE after dropping that much $$$$$$$

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i think you made the right choice. after you get them heat molded i think the pressure on top of your foot will go away. Also have you tried loosing the laces on top of the boot?
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i think you made the right choice. after you get them heat molded i think the pressure on top of your foot will go away. Also have you tried loosing the laces on top of the boot?

Which laces? I loosened both the upper and lower zone (even looser than the left boot now) and still I have terrible pressure on the top of my right foot...

EDIT: Oh wow I'm an idiot... The bottom lace on the liner was loose and I think that was what was pressing down on my right foot. Crazy how something so small can make such a difference. Let's see how they fit now

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Well fixing that lower lace did take away the really bad pressure point on top of my right foot... But both feet are definitely aching in that same exact spot after wearing these around the house for like an hour.... :\ How tight should I have them? Right now they are pretty tight, but could go a fair bit tighter.

Actually I started getting up and walking around and realized the pressure point is only really bad while I'm sitting down.... ????

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From experience.. I'm wearing 9.0 ions.... and dude holy shit spread for the 9.5's .... these bastards do take a long ass time to break in.... but they do pack out a lot so spring for the smaller size...

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From experience.. I'm wearing 9.0 ions.... and dude holy shit spread for the 9.5's .... these bastards do take a long ass time to break in.... but they do pack out a lot so spring for the smaller size...
Did you have pressure points that went away? The ones I'm getting on the top of my feet are really starting to concern me

EDIT: Just took them off and wow they were really hurting after almost 2 hrs. Although I was sitting down for about an hour and that's when they really start to hurt.

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I did initially.. but once they heat molded then it went away and hasn't been back since.. it's a very very snug boot.

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The IONS have speed lacing right? This is one reason why I hate speed laces. If you have traditional laces, you can loop the first couple of notches very loose in the toe area and just tighten other zones.

I have to do this because I have a wider toe box (I recently found out that Asians have wider feet and some brands make Asian Fit boots ).

I have 9.5 Restricted Hails and 10 2008 TWC. The 9.5 definitely feels more snug, but I'm confident that they will be perfect after packing out. My size 10 TWC's packed out and now I get heel lift in those (I tie the laces tighter around the ankles to lessen this problem).

I personally have never heat molded boots. I have always allowed them to mold naturally to my foot's heat. I'm sure that 15 years of experience guy is good at molding liners so try that. It will probably help a ton.

Also, I don't tighten my liners too tight. That could be your problem as well.


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Yep - I think I will be good after the heat mold and pack out. This is just my first pair of boots that I've bought new and taking through the breaking in process, so I'm not too sure what to expect... And the fact that I was having a pressure point from the get go freaked me out. The 10s definitely already had a little room to play with, and there was the slightest amount of heel lift... So yah, those pry would've been way loose once they packed out.

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I have to do this because I have a wider toe box (I recently found out that Asians have wider feet and some brands make Asian Fit boots ).

Also, I don't tighten my liners too tight. That could be your problem as well.
What brands would these be? i've never seen anything about asian fit boots before. i sprung for the size 10's and have resolved to buy a foot pad insert when it eventually packs out. i can't imagine going boarding in pain for the first few days because the boots are too tight.

and what happens when you keep the liners loose as opposed to tight?
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