Burton Hail pressure point - Snowboarding Forum

eastCOASTkills · 03-04-2011, 09:06 PM

So I just got hails last week and I've ridden them three times so far. I wear a size 9 shoe and i got size 7.5 boots. The night before i went riding i wore them around for like 2 hours and i noticed discomfort in my ankles and on the top of my foot, but it wasn't too bad. Then after riding the next day for about and hour and a half i got some pretty bad discomfort and pain on the top of my foot, especially when i was strapped in to the board. I was at first afraid that this was the ankle strap that was causing the pain because the boots are so soft, but I hoping it's just because theyre new boots. Now, after the third day riding in them, I still noticed the pain but after a longer period of riding, so i'm hoping it will eventually go away when the boots pack out a bit. What do you think, does the boot just need to pack out some more?

F.T · 03-05-2011, 03:45 PM

Hey, I just bought some restricted Hails and I love them. Been riding twice in them and have no complaints apart from one thing. The sole of my right foot (I'm goofy) is KILLING me! The arch feels really sore and I start to feel numbness in my foot after a little while. I think it might be because I'm riding on a really shitty rental right now and the bindings really hurt my feet.

I'm surprised you feel pressure points in your ankles, they feel really forgiving to me. I tried on the DC Judge with Boa and it had really bad pressure points on my left ankle, something that I used to get a lot with ski boots. The Hail felt really nice though. I tried on both the ion and the Hail and the Hail just felt a little better...

Rufus · 03-05-2011, 10:16 PM

It took me a few days to break in my Hails, now they are the most comfortable boots I've ever had. I have 100+ days on them now.

TreyDay · 03-06-2011, 02:29 AM

i also have new hails... i felt the same pressure point you are talking about... i have been up 5 times now on them. I had to loosen the laces a little bit for the first time wearing them. now they are very comfortable. hopes this help. OH and i wear size 9.5 shoes but wear size 9 boots.... are you sure they are not to small

eastCOASTkills · 03-06-2011, 07:29 AM

nope they fit awesome actually. i think they just need to be broken in some more hopefully.

Jason · 03-06-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by F.T

Hey, I just bought some restricted Hails and I love them. Been riding twice in them and have no complaints apart from one thing. The sole of my right foot (I'm goofy) is KILLING me! The arch feels really sore and I start to feel numbness in my foot after a little while. I think it might be because I'm riding on a really shitty rental right now and the bindings really hurt my feet.

I'm surprised you feel pressure points in your ankles, they feel really forgiving to me. I tried on the DC Judge with Boa and it had really bad pressure points on my left ankle, something that I used to get a lot with ski boots. The Hail felt really nice though. I tried on both the ion and the Hail and the Hail just felt a little better...

My arches were killing me in my Burton hail's. Bought blue super feet insoles and now they are great.

cifex · 03-06-2011, 07:23 PM

Some boots will crease when you set the highback lean.

eastCOASTkills · 03-06-2011, 07:29 PM

i thought that might have been it but i have little to no forward lean

Leo · 03-08-2011, 06:56 AM

I had same issues with my Restricted Hails. Both the ankle/top of foot and some outer pain in the soles of my feet.

Here's what I did to solve the issue for the ankle/top of foot pain:

I simply took more control over the tightening of my liner and laces. I'm used to cranking my liner tight in my other boots. With the Hails, I did it slightly looser than normal. Still tight, but not the tightest like I used to. With my outer laces, I kept the top foot area fairly loose and did the ankle area (right before the cuff) less than tight. For the cuff, I did the first set of hooks just tight. For the remaining hooks, I did them as tight as I could. I get no heel lift and this solved my ankle/top of foot pain. Obviously, it's still possible to get pain especially if you wear traditional strap bindings and ride for extended periods of time.

For the pain in the outer area of my soles, a change in my cant settings alleviated the pain. The Restricted Hails have the EST soles. This is a lower profile sole and is pretty flat. Burton designed this to compliment their EST bindings on their ICS boards. So basically, this means you're going to feel everything under your feet on none EST/ICS setups. I tried them on my Flows which have a plastic cover on the base and I did not like that lol. On my 390 Boss, I started with the 3.0 cant and felt a lot of discomfort on the outer soles of my feet. Changed it to the 2.0 cant and the pain went away.

F.T · 03-08-2011, 08:53 AM

I just bought some superfeet insoles for them today and at first I thought I'd wasted 60 euros, but after about 30 minutes my feet feel tons better. Super cushy boots now.

03-04-2011, 09:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
eastCOASTkills Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: PA Posts: 393	Burton Hail pressure point So I just got hails last week and I've ridden them three times so far. I wear a size 9 shoe and i got size 7.5 boots. The night before i went riding i wore them around for like 2 hours and i noticed discomfort in my ankles and on the top of my foot, but it wasn't too bad. Then after riding the next day for about and hour and a half i got some pretty bad discomfort and pain on the top of my foot, especially when i was strapped in to the board. I was at first afraid that this was the ankle strap that was causing the pain because the boots are so soft, but I hoping it's just because theyre new boots. Now, after the third day riding in them, I still noticed the pain but after a longer period of riding, so i'm hoping it will eventually go away when the boots pack out a bit. What do you think, does the boot just need to pack out some more?

03-06-2011, 07:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
cifex -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,933	Some boots will crease when you set the highback lean. __________________

03-08-2011, 06:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	I had same issues with my Restricted Hails. Both the ankle/top of foot and some outer pain in the soles of my feet. Here's what I did to solve the issue for the ankle/top of foot pain: I simply took more control over the tightening of my liner and laces. I'm used to cranking my liner tight in my other boots. With the Hails, I did it slightly looser than normal. Still tight, but not the tightest like I used to. With my outer laces, I kept the top foot area fairly loose and did the ankle area (right before the cuff) less than tight. For the cuff, I did the first set of hooks just tight. For the remaining hooks, I did them as tight as I could. I get no heel lift and this solved my ankle/top of foot pain. Obviously, it's still possible to get pain especially if you wear traditional strap bindings and ride for extended periods of time. For the pain in the outer area of my soles, a change in my cant settings alleviated the pain. The Restricted Hails have the EST soles. This is a lower profile sole and is pretty flat. Burton designed this to compliment their EST bindings on their ICS boards. So basically, this means you're going to feel everything under your feet on none EST/ICS setups. I tried them on my Flows which have a plastic cover on the base and I did not like that lol. On my 390 Boss, I started with the 3.0 cant and felt a lot of discomfort on the outer soles of my feet. Changed it to the 2.0 cant and the pain went away. __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

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03-05-2011, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
F.T Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 23	Hey, I just bought some restricted Hails and I love them. Been riding twice in them and have no complaints apart from one thing. The sole of my right foot (I'm goofy) is KILLING me! The arch feels really sore and I start to feel numbness in my foot after a little while. I think it might be because I'm riding on a really shitty rental right now and the bindings really hurt my feet. I'm surprised you feel pressure points in your ankles, they feel really forgiving to me. I tried on the DC Judge with Boa and it had really bad pressure points on my left ankle, something that I used to get a lot with ski boots. The Hail felt really nice though. I tried on both the ion and the Hail and the Hail just felt a little better...

03-05-2011, 10:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 418	It took me a few days to break in my Hails, now they are the most comfortable boots I've ever had. I have 100+ days on them now.

03-06-2011, 02:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
TreyDay Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28	i also have new hails... i felt the same pressure point you are talking about... i have been up 5 times now on them. I had to loosen the laces a little bit for the first time wearing them. now they are very comfortable. hopes this help. OH and i wear size 9.5 shoes but wear size 9 boots.... are you sure they are not to small

03-06-2011, 07:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
eastCOASTkills Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: PA Posts: 393	nope they fit awesome actually. i think they just need to be broken in some more hopefully.

03-06-2011, 07:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
eastCOASTkills Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: PA Posts: 393	i thought that might have been it but i have little to no forward lean

03-08-2011, 08:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
F.T Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 23	I just bought some superfeet insoles for them today and at first I thought I'd wasted 60 euros, but after about 30 minutes my feet feel tons better. Super cushy boots now.