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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-28-2011, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
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Nike boots vs Burton Ion

Hey guys, i am out looking for new boots. I have a pair of DC Park boots in size 11. I want a little stiffer boot for more ankle support, and want to go down to a 10.5 to reduce as much toe/heel overhang as much as possible. For that reason i have been looking at the burton boots because they have the shrinkage technology in them and that sounds like exactly what i need. Been looking at the Ions a bit and they seem like a high end boot. They seem perfect for the shrinkage tech and they are a medium/stiff flex. I just cant find anywhere that have them to try them on but i did try grails on and they were comfortable.

Anyways the Ions seem like a perfect boot but i have heard so much great stuff about Nike's boots so i went to try them on. The Danny Kass were probably the most comfortable on me in 10.5. The stiffness was almost perfect. The Zoom Force Ones were barely less comfortable than the DKs but not enough to make a big difference. The Kaijus were a softer boot. Not super soft but still softer than the DKs and ZF1s. I would probably have to go with a half size bigger in Kaijus as well to an 11.

So my question is, which would you guys prefer for a stiffer all mountain boot with more park and freestyle in mind? The Burton Ions or the Nike Danny Kass, Zoom Force One or Kaijus? Thanks!
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nevermind with the kaijus. Went to the LBS and tried a pair on and they were just too soft and the toe box is really small for me. So its between the DKs ZF1s and Ions
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The Ions I used from last year (2010-2011 model year) were not stiff boots at all. I'd say that had a moderate amount of lateral stiffness (flexing nose to tail on your board) but absolutely no tongue stiffness, I could fold the thing in half with one hand. If you're looking for a high performance big mountain boot, those are not the ones. For reference, they're much, much softer than Salomon malamutes, Flow Rifts, and DC judge's.

I can't be much help on the Nike options, but they all felt pretty darn soft in the store as well.
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You sure man?? The Ions for one thing are one of Burtons stiffest boots. Also You say the Ion is not a high performance boot? They have all the latest technology in a boot. You really should not throw those statements out.
You may note I said "high performance big mountain boot," which is different than saying "high performance boot." The boot is simply not stiff, no amount of technology will magically make it protect your ankles from a huge drop if there is no physical support.

I realize burton rates it as "one of their stiffest boots," and I was just as surprised as you are that they are not, objectively, stiff at all. But so it goes.
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You may note I said "high performance big mountain boot," which is different than saying "high performance boot." The boot is simply not stiff, no amount of technology will magically make it protect your ankles from a huge drop if there is no physical support.

I realize burton rates it as "one of their stiffest boots," and I was just as surprised as you are that they are not, objectively, stiff at all. But so it goes.
There was one year, maybe last year or year before where burton ions got softened and made stiffer the year after that, can't remnber which one.
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i say go with the ZF1s. I have them right now and I think they are pretty comfortable. I got them hold molded and they felt even better after. They are pretty stiff too. They are good for all mountain with park and freestyle.
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do FORCE 1 and DK fit same number as the kaiju? i wear 10 kaiju... will the 100 for other nike models be ok?
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if you are trying to REDUCE your toe/heel overhang you need to consider that nike and vans shells have much larger footprint than burton and most of the other boots, including 32. in some sizes it can make the difference between fitting into a M/L binding, versus a L/XL. food for thought.

i have both DK zooms and 32 lashed in size 10, the difference between the two footprints is about a 1/2 size, if not a full size larger on the nike.

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do size 10 kaiju fitt size m burton binding ?

is a nike 10 bigger than burton ?
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do size 10 kaiju fitt size m burton binding ?

is a nike 10 bigger than burton ?
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Should be fine in a med.

Yes, Nike's are much more bulky than Burton, bigger, footprint too with the shrink tech thing in Burton ION.
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