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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-29-2012, 12:03 PM
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I've had near the exact opposite experience as zk0ot. Tried on a pr of Nikes (ZF1s) at the store & couldn't get them off fast enough. They immediately made my feet hurt. Kind of odd seeing as I wear Nike shoes daily. Then I tried on a pr of 686/NBs (580 speed lace). So plush. On the stiffer side, but that's what I like. I've been wearing them for a season now & continue to like them. They may be a bit bulkier than some boots out there, but that doesn't really bother me.

I don't mean to say this like zk0ot is wrong. Instead to point out that not every boot is for everyone and that you really need to try before you buy.
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Ok...so Ive ridden the 580 focus boa 8 days so far this season. Let me start by saying I do not spend any time in the park. I am a cruiser and high speed charger. This is a STIFF boot, but I have to say they are the most comfortable Ive ridden to date. I really like the focus boa system, which makes getting in and out a breeze. Its also nice to be able to loosen up with a snap between runs. Ive ridden in a variety of conditions so far this season...everything from slushy early season crap to about a foot of powder. These boots are extremely responsive. Actually loosened up the ratchets a bit till I got used to the response. That teamed with my NS RaptorX with Rome Arsenal bindings, I dont want to sneeze on a high speed charge.

With that said, I did have a problem with one of the ratches. On the left boot while cranking on the lower ratchet (side of the boot) I noticed the ratchet wouldnt lock properly. Luckily it was the lower section of the boot and I dont crank those down to tight anyway. I contacted boa...not new balance/686 and I have a replacement kit, as well as an additional side and tounge ratchet kit on the way (for spares). 22 bucks in the shopping cart, but once the order was placed it was on the house. Just used the redeem guarantee and it brings you to the warranty page. https://www2.boatechnology.com/warranty.php. Good to know for anyone with the boa system.

the moral of the story...I will continue to jam on this boot this season and will only replace if I totally screw them up. Otherwise I dont see myself switching boots any time soon.
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WernerSL or Triple8Sol, any update or feedback on these ??

the user base is so small for these its tough to get any feedback.
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WernerSL or Triple8Sol, any update or feedback on these ??

the user base is so small for these its tough to get any feedback.
Well with this season coming up I have no plans to change boots. Rode 19 days last season. That included a run down firebreak St heavenly in Lake Tahoe. Slush, heavy poo, tracks galore, boulders, creeks, logs... Name it. Glad I had a responsive boot and board combo. Don't hesitate. And they run true to size.

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how is it in terms of stiffness? i am riding an 6 year old Salmon Dialogue and think they are mid stiff ( 5 or 6 rating)?

sometimes i do notice my turns are sloppy and slow to go toe to heel. i wonder if a stiffer boot is what i need to upgrade to.

thanks for replying to this 2year old thread!
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how is it in terms of stiffness? i am riding an 6 year old Salmon Dialogue and think they are mid stiff ( 5 or 6 rating)?

sometimes i do notice my turns are sloppy and slow to go toe to heel. i wonder if a stiffer boot is what i need to upgrade to.

thanks for replying to this 2year old thread!
Not even a year old. Anyway... I'd say they are up there. Maybe 8. Only thing stiffer that I've ridden is a and burton step in boot. But then they were like a hybrid ski boot. Very heavy and uncomfortable.

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I ended up having to return these boots, luckily I got them from REI. They broke down after only maybe 30 days of riding with plenty of hiking mixed in there. One of the main issues was that the lower zone wouldn't get as tight as I needed it. Tightening the lower zone to its limit may have also related to the other issue, which was when the ankle area broke down and no longer provided proper support. I should have taken some pics, as I can't really describe how it looked. Basically they were very comfortable out of the box, and were great for the first 20 days, then started to break down rapidly.

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I ended up having to return these boots, luckily I got them from REI. They broke down after only maybe 30 days of riding with plenty of hiking mixed in there. One of the main issues was that the lower zone wouldn't get as tight as I needed it. Tightening the lower zone to its limit may have also related to the other issue, which was when the ankle area broke down and no longer provided proper support. I should have taken some pics, as I can't really describe how it looked. Basically they were very comfortable out of the box, and were great for the first 20 days, then started to break down rapidly.
Wondering if you just got a bad set or if this will be the norm. I put almost 20 days on em last year. Held up just fine. I'll see what happens this season. Kind of curious how exactly they broke down on ya. Would have liked to see the damage.
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I don't think they were defective at all. Just not durable enough. I'm pretty hard on boots from riding, constant strapping in, and plenty of hiking and hanging out mixed in.

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Just hoping when I hit 20 days (next time out) they will maintain.
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