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Old 02-24-2012, 08:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all,

I've got a pair of Salomon Synapse boots. They're pretty comfy overall, however I've got two issues:

1) Heel lift when I go toe side on my lead foot
2) I'm getting tired of the lacing system - the strap hangs, or the lace grip likes to fall out of its pocket. Not to mention the fact that I can never get the bottom to tighten enough. Half the time when I'm pulling it, the lace catches with the top latch and locks up there.

So my question is, is this enough to pull the trigger and get the DC Judge? They've got a cool double BOA system and have a very good reputation of heel hold.

However, I know that the Synapse is generally comfortable, and I'd hate for the Judge to fail me that way.

What does it take you guys to pull the trigger and get new boots?
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When they're worn out and falling apart. Not a fan of boa systems. I feel like I could keep my heel down with just my ankle strap, though. With non-boa boots, I can really lay into the ankle area laces to keep my heel in the pocket.
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Heel lift sucks so no matter how comfortable its gonna be hard to be happy with them. Maybe go to a boot fitter and get them to help you out with heel lift issue? If it's an issue due to lacing bottom half of boot i'm not sure what they could do though.

Have you had em for a while?

My Vans are coming up on 3 seasons and have packed out a bit much now, the liner is kinda gone hard and its difficult to get lace tension just right... must nearly be ready to get something else
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you could try putting regular laces in there instead of using the quicklace thing they have. i pretty much hate all quick lace systems. they don't seem to stay tight where you want them to. never tried a double boa though.
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If you get new boots, make sure you try on as many brands as possible. Don't just settle for the DC's other brands do the double BOA. You may find something else fits you better.
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I'm up to 3 seasons on my DC Scouts and I beleive this will be the last one for them. What started out as a great fit and ultra comfy ride has turned into a sloppy fit and not so comfy ride. Plus the exterior of them is getting pretty beat and I'm a little worried about some really thin spots on the fabric. I think it becomes fairly clear when you need to replace your boots.

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I just got a pair of double boa and they are the shit. You can fine tune them to suit your foot, its like you are your own personal boot fitter.
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I've had them for a few seasons, but until I moved to Colorado, 5 times in a season was the max. They're still in great shape but the idea of cranking down on that double boa and making them more snug is very appealing. My thought is that being able to constantly crank down will alleviate the sloppiness that happens with my Synapses.

Anyone with double boa experience in this regard?
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I had single boas and was looking to upgrade this fall. I purchased some double boas but after wearing them around the house I had to take them back. The wires on one of the zones ran right along my ankle creating a nasty hot spot that I didn't want to deal with. I ended up going with burtons that have the dual zone speed lacing system and am very happy with my purchase.
In regards to the question when to upgrade... I usually replace my boots when they get too soft and they can't offer the response I need.
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Hey all,

I've got a pair of Salomon Synapse boots. They're pretty comfy overall, however I've got two issues:

1) Heel lift when I go toe side on my lead foot
2) I'm getting tired of the lacing system - the strap hangs, or the lace grip likes to fall out of its pocket. Not to mention the fact that I can never get the bottom to tighten enough. Half the time when I'm pulling it, the lace catches with the top latch and locks up there.

So my question is, is this enough to pull the trigger and get the DC Judge? They've got a cool double BOA system and have a very good reputation of heel hold.

However, I know that the Synapse is generally comfortable, and I'd hate for the Judge to fail me that way.

What does it take you guys to pull the trigger and get new boots?

To each their own, I guess... I have the same boots and they're by far my favorite lacing system. Super fast to tighten up compared to most systems and they haven't given me any issues in 4 or 5 seasons (I've heard people needing wire cutters to get BOAs off when the tightening mechanism breaks).

I like how there's only one set of laces but you can still adjust the bottom tightness independent of the top. I do get some heal lift now that they've stretched but nothing too bad.

Do you wear the top section slightly loose? I've noticed they come loose if they're not tightened pretty well. I usually just hold the tongue out slightly when I'm pulling the laces up. That seems to better set the laces in place.
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