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Old 06-18-2012, 08:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I will be buying new boots this season and I wanted to get some input from you guys regarding the various lacing systems that are out there and what has seemed to work best for you.

Currently I’m riding with a pair of ’08-’09ish Ride Anthems that have a “speed lace” system. Basically there’s a soft neoprene-like inner boot and then the harder leather outer boot. Both have a handle type thing connected to the laces that you pull to tighten them. Then, a locking mechanism (that doesn’t fucking work), on the tongue of the boots is supposed to hold them in place. The one on the inner boot works fine, but the one on the outer boot loosens A LOT within a few turns.

Aside from loosening constantly the boots have been fine in my opinion. The trouble is that loosening constantly is a huge problem, obviously, and I’d like to avoid it with my next boots.

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Old 06-18-2012, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Double BOA with an inner lacing system that is connected to the heel of the boot is the best for me. When you do up your boot inner its locked down to the boot, this helps immensely with heel lift and then having BOA precision on the outside is the icing on the cake.

Mine are thirtytwo focus BOA but there are other boots out there with the same features.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've got a pair of 32 Lashed not "fast-track", and basically it has a BOA type inner liner that you pull and lock (which works really good for locking your heel) and then the exterior is just laced. Laced might take a bit longer, but it is pretty bulletproof for getting the exact pressure you want and not really having to worry about it coming undone or loosening.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Definitely liking the 32’s as I’ve got a wide foot, but I’ve watched the 32 boot videos on their website and the guy seems to gloss over the lacing systems in every case except the double boa setup. “Lightest boot on the market, heat moldable, etc.” All great, but goddamn, out of 15 models only 2 have the boas (one is single boa, one is double). I really like the idea of twisting a knob to tighten my boot, since it’s easy and fast, but I have to believe that there is a reason the majority of their boots have a traditionally laced outer boot. If either of you guys were to buy a new boot today would you lean toward the double boa, single boa, or normal lace setup?
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BOAs work for some people and actually provide a specific fit that some people need. I found BOA to be completely useless tech for myself. Killclimbz pointed out to me that they are nice for skinning, which I do not currently do. I have 2 pairs of 32s right now, both with traditional lacing on the outside. Honestly unless you have a specific reason to NOT get laces, you SHOULD get traditional laces. All the other gimmicks are just gimmicks. Laces work.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I really dont care for useless tech either but double BOA allows me to get a better fit than I could with laces. I will never go back.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the feedback. What snowklinger said about having a specific reason NOT to get traditional laces makes a lot of sense to me. Man it would be nice to actually ride a day on the boa setup first though. Just to see if I'm one of the ones this particular system fits better.

Is there such a thing as a boot demo day? Can't say I've ever heard of one. It's one thing to lace a pair up in the shop but riding on them would be the real test. My Anthems laced up nice and tight in the store where I bought 'em, but first run and they were LOOOOOSE.

Unless somebody else wants to weigh in on this I'm probably gonna go the traditional laces route since it seems like the safer bet. Thanks again.
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What about renting a pair? That's how I got introduced to Boa.
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I really dont care for useless tech either but double BOA allows me to get a better fit than I could with laces. I will never go back.
I cannot, for the life of me, get laces tight. I have a wide but low volume foot and skinny ankles. What fits my foot ends up being too damn big everywhere else. I can literally move my whole foot a few centimeters vertically when my boot is tightened as far as I can go.

The one time it felt somewhat decent (foot lift, not heel lift but foot lift) was in some K2 Maysis with the boa. but it was single boa, and I had some pressure points and the boot wasn't wide enough. Angry mentioned I should have gotten them heat molded which I didn't think of.

But I think I'm going to look for some dual boa's next season. Being able to crank it tight is probably what I need. Problem is finding them local so I might have to buy, try and return.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Laces are the easiest to replace and if you are really finicky about your fit, they fine tune the most. They also stretch, loosen, and the boot softens up. I find having to re tie my boots when I am out a bit of a pita.

BOA laces don't really stretch, but the boot still softens up or pack out from the pressure of the laces so to speak. The tighten them up, isn't even 1/10 of the chore it is for regular laces. Spin and go. You can over tighten BOA cables fairly easily though. They are a bit more time consuming to replace, but it is fairly easy. Takes me about 15 minutes for a pair of boots. You'll have the have the replace cable and tool to do it. Something you can do in a cafeteria. If you are in the field, like the backcountry, you are probably not going to pull this one off. A long Voile Strap around the boot works pretty well. I use the double BOA system, and the only cables I have had bust are the uppers. This has happened after pluse 60-70 days on the boots, so overall I am finding BOA reliable. For what I do, it's way more ideal then laces.
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