Numb toes in new boots. - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

snowklinger · 08-13-2012, 04:20 AM

3 things FWIW:

1. heat mold with toe cap = best solution, can be tried several times to achieve.

2. bootfitter service

3. I walk around in 10's for all my shoes, I have 2 pairs of 32's, which fit me perfect in 9's. To be fair for some reason my Lashed and Tm-2's fit better with their liners swapped...

frosty · 08-13-2012, 04:23 AM

Well, I have really wide/thick feet.

I took the insole out and that help a thousand percent. I'm hoping if i go half a size up, this is somewhat how it will feel.

With the insole in, my feet are straight up, smushed against the liner/boot.

ETM · 08-13-2012, 04:30 AM

A lot of the time insole thickness is the only difference between say an 8 and an 8.5

frosty · 08-13-2012, 04:36 AM

Ok. Hopefully that's not the case. I was told by somebody at tactics, that I would get more room in the toe box, by going from a 8 to 8.5.

Even if that is the case, hopefully it's enough to stop this numbness.

The insoles are so thick. I took them out, and wooooo, what a relief.. but I know i can't, not use a footbed.

snowklinger · 08-13-2012, 05:50 AM

Yea the stiffness and thicker liner of the tm-two make them a little tight for me as well. I also have flat wide fat feet, and the shape of the boot is pretty good, its a volume issue for me, which is why when I put the thicker liner into the looser Lashed, and vice-versa, both boots fit perfect. You may have to change a size.

Also are your feet falling asleep riding or standing? Standing upright my toes are always mashed against the front of my boot, however this only causes a problem on the walk between the car and the lift, and its not that bad. Once in riding or uphill hiking position, the pressure on the shins pulls the heel back and the toes fit perfect - this is what you want to achieve without discomfort.

You need a lil more room for those fatties I think, I know the feeling very well.

**HoboMaster** · 08-13-2012, 10:16 AM

Your toes really shouldn't be hitting anything, they should be free to wiggle around. You pretty much just want the boot tight from your heel to the ball of your foot, anything past that should be pretty free and clear.

Heat molding does make a huge difference though, especially if you have a weird foot shape. I picked up a pair of 32 Lashed a few seasons ago and have been so stoked with them. I used to get foot pain regularly, and I don't get it at all with these after molding.

frosty · 08-13-2012, 11:38 AM

Ok. The only problem, seems to be in the toe box. My toes/foot is smashed against the top of the boot with this insole. The insole is like 3/8ths or more in thickness at the toe area. I called evo, and they also reassured me that the only thing that will change from a 8 to 8.5, is the insole. Now, I don't know what to do. I don't want to get a 8.5 and have it be too small. Nor do I want to get a 9 and have it be too big.. I'm hoping a 8.5 shall work.

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Originally Posted by snowklinger

Also are your feet falling asleep riding or standing? Standing upright my toes are always mashed against the front of my boot, however this only causes a problem on the walk between the car and the lift, and its not that bad. Once in riding or uphill hiking position, the pressure on the shins pulls the heel back and the toes fit perfect - this is what you want to achieve without discomfort.

You need a lil more room for those fatties I think, I know the feeling very well.

I haven't when riding yet. I just received these about 4 days ago.. This is all while completely loosened and just sitting, not moving.

that_guy · 08-13-2012, 01:43 PM

The sizing sounds about right, but I'd try the following things:

You mentioned that the boots are unlaced, I would see if your toes are still numb once you lace up the boots and are in a walking or riding position, i.e. with your knees slightly bent.

As others have mentioned, heat molding, different insoles, what socks are you wearing currently?

frosty · 08-13-2012, 01:45 PM

I'm just gonna go with the 8.5. Hopefully i don't need a 9.

Thanks for all your help guys.

timmytard · 08-13-2012, 01:56 PM

Don't exchange them, in the long run they will be way better.

I've been buying 1/2 size smaller boots for 20 years & this year had to go a full size because it was all they had in the boot I wanted.

Have you never done them up? When you do them up, it will suck your foot back into the heel cup.

Get them heat molded. The shell is only so big, if you put on a toe cap it occupies a certain amount of space, when the foam hardens, that is how much space you get. The more space you occupy when the foam is compressible, the more space you are left with when it hardens.

If the insole is more than 3/8th's thick, I'm pretty sure it will compress a tonne once you ride them.

TT

08-13-2012, 04:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,903	3 things FWIW: 1. heat mold with toe cap = best solution, can be tried several times to achieve. 2. bootfitter service 3. I walk around in 10's for all my shoes, I have 2 pairs of 32's, which fit me perfect in 9's. To be fair for some reason my Lashed and Tm-2's fit better with their liners swapped... __________________ is it late october yet?

08-13-2012, 04:30 AM	#13 (permalink)
ETM Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hokkaido in my mind Posts: 1,393	A lot of the time insole thickness is the only difference between say an 8 and an 8.5 __________________

08-13-2012, 05:50 AM	#15 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,903	Yea the stiffness and thicker liner of the tm-two make them a little tight for me as well. I also have flat wide fat feet, and the shape of the boot is pretty good, its a volume issue for me, which is why when I put the thicker liner into the looser Lashed, and vice-versa, both boots fit perfect. You may have to change a size. Also are your feet falling asleep riding or standing? Standing upright my toes are always mashed against the front of my boot, however this only causes a problem on the walk between the car and the lift, and its not that bad. Once in riding or uphill hiking position, the pressure on the shins pulls the heel back and the toes fit perfect - this is what you want to achieve without discomfort. You need a lil more room for those fatties I think, I know the feeling very well. __________________ is it late october yet?

08-13-2012, 10:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
HoboMaster Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sandpoint / Moscow, ID Posts: 2,301	Your toes really shouldn't be hitting anything, they should be free to wiggle around. You pretty much just want the boot tight from your heel to the ball of your foot, anything past that should be pretty free and clear. Heat molding does make a huge difference though, especially if you have a weird foot shape. I picked up a pair of 32 Lashed a few seasons ago and have been so stoked with them. I used to get foot pain regularly, and I don't get it at all with these after molding. __________________ PowderHound and TreeNinja

08-13-2012, 01:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
timmytard Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: I can see Santa shoveling his driveway Posts: 1,383	Don't exchange them, in the long run they will be way better. I've been buying 1/2 size smaller boots for 20 years & this year had to go a full size because it was all they had in the boot I wanted. Have you never done them up? When you do them up, it will suck your foot back into the heel cup. Get them heat molded. The shell is only so big, if you put on a toe cap it occupies a certain amount of space, when the foam hardens, that is how much space you get. The more space you occupy when the foam is compressible, the more space you are left with when it hardens. If the insole is more than 3/8th's thick, I'm pretty sure it will compress a tonne once you ride them. TT __________________ If whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. Then I am so close to immortality

08-13-2012, 04:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
frosty Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 90	Well, I have really wide/thick feet. I took the insole out and that help a thousand percent. I'm hoping if i go half a size up, this is somewhat how it will feel. With the insole in, my feet are straight up, smushed against the liner/boot.

08-13-2012, 04:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
frosty Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 90	Ok. Hopefully that's not the case. I was told by somebody at tactics, that I would get more room in the toe box, by going from a 8 to 8.5. Even if that is the case, hopefully it's enough to stop this numbness. The insoles are so thick. I took them out, and wooooo, what a relief.. but I know i can't, not use a footbed.

08-13-2012, 01:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
that_guy Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 65	The sizing sounds about right, but I'd try the following things: You mentioned that the boots are unlaced, I would see if your toes are still numb once you lace up the boots and are in a walking or riding position, i.e. with your knees slightly bent. As others have mentioned, heat molding, different insoles, what socks are you wearing currently?

08-13-2012, 01:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
frosty Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 90	I'm just gonna go with the 8.5. Hopefully i don't need a 9. Thanks for all your help guys.

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