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I have yet to pull out a Nike for someone cause they had them before and want them again. And every time I put some one in a Nike I either sell them a 32 or a Salomon instead, by their choice. Usually Salomon.

Boa stays tight, is easier to adjust on the mountain, and stronger. I don't know if you have a problem lacing Boa's, cause I don't. And any shop that sells them should have replacement parts and it takes about 5-10 minutes. I replace less boa laces than traditionals. If I was really worried about it I'd just carry them with me and with the new tool less system I can do it on the mountain on the fly.

And again, I've already had to replace numerous laces and shell locks on our Nikes. So apparently they aren't that durable.

I'm over debating Nike for now though, you just can't get it through your head that they sell cause they have a Swoosh on them. We'll wait till Adidas come out and see what happens.

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You sell more Salomon boots because you like salomon more! I just picked up last years DKs and they are a little wider then the ZF1 and vapen so I couldn't be more happier.

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I sell more Salomon's than anything else. Including Nikes. I can literally say nothing, and just put them in whatever Nike they ask for and then a Salomon and 9 times out of 10 they'll pick Salomon. Oh and I guess you'll have to boycott Volcom now as they're owned by Prada.
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You sell more Salomon boots because you like salomon more! I just picked up last years DKs and they are a little wider then the ZF1 and vapen so I couldn't be more happier.

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I sell more Salomon's than anything else. Including Nikes. I can literally say nothing, and just put them in whatever Nike they ask for and then a Salomon and 9 times out of 10 they'll pick Salomon. Oh and I guess you'll have to boycott Volcom now as they're owned by Prada.
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How is this a good thing? Shouldn't a heat moldable liner stay molded?
Yeah, not saying it's a good thing, just something I noticed. Probably something to do with them supposedly being re-heatmouldable. Though "re-heatmouldable" is likely just the term that the Marketing dept uses for Foam That Wont Stay Put (TM)

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You sell more Salomon boots because you like salomon more! I just picked up last years DKs and they are a little wider then the ZF1 and vapen so I couldn't be more happier.
Yes beacause with sheer will power I can make a boot fit better. And for the record the only thing I can comment on Salomon is my customer feedback. The dont fit me at all so Ive never worn them. I sell more Salomon cause they fit people better.

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Yes beacause with sheer will power I can make a boot fit better. And for the record the only thing I can comment on Salomon is my customer feedback. The dont fit me at all so Ive never worn them. I sell more Salomon cause they fit people better.
Retail stories like this always interest me. I truly beleive that it has nothing to do with what you actually say to the customer, more about body language when showing different boots. At our shop we have had the exact opposite results with some pretty crazy results from a retail standpoint. For the last 2 seasons most customers who try on the Kaiju end up in that boot here. To the point of a $350 boot outselling every other boot on the wall by at least double.

Similar to the Flow/Gnu performance at different shops. When you as a salesman believe in a product you approach the whole sale differently in your body language. A shrug of the shoulders or weird facial expression can turn somebody onto or off of a product better than any pre-rehearsed sales speech every time.

Nike is our all time best received and best selling boot brand, for our customers. The management team here has all been riding them for a few season now and have each put over a hundred days of hard riding on their boots.
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Pack out like a full size if not more they're fucking crap. Seriously leave the snowboard boots to the professionals Nike has no clue what the fuck they're doing.
This couldn't be more wrong. I love my Zoom Forces, true to size, love 'em.
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Yes beacause with sheer will power I can make a boot fit better. And for the record the only thing I can comment on Salomon is my customer feedback. The dont fit me at all so Ive never worn them. I sell more Salomon cause they fit people better.
One question, do you get flow from K2 or Salomon?


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Retail stories like this always interest me. I truly beleive that it has nothing to do with what you actually say to the customer, more about body language when showing different boots. At our shop we have had the exact opposite results with some pretty crazy results from a retail standpoint. For the last 2 seasons most customers who try on the Kaiju end up in that boot here. To the point of a $350 boot outselling every other boot on the wall by at least double.

Similar to the Flow/Gnu performance at different shops. When you as a salesman believe in a product you approach the whole sale differently in your body language. A shrug of the shoulders or weird facial expression can turn somebody onto or off of a product better than any pre-rehearsed sales speech every time.

Nike is our all time best received and best selling boot brand, for our customers. The management team here has all been riding them for a few season now and have each put over a hundred days of hard riding on their boots.
And yup, agree with this.

I sell the most Nike boots, by far, than any other boot on the shelf. Why? Because I push the product. If the boot doesn't fit, it doesn't fit, but you can generally sway a person's opinion one way or another on similar products by hyping up one or the other.


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