Burton boot advice - Snowboarding Forum

protik · 10-19-2012, 06:40 AM

Riding style: Free style/all mountain (don't do parks at all)

Board: 2013 Burton Custom 158
Bindings: 2013 Burton Malavita EST
Boots: Invader vs Raptor?

Board: 2013 Restricted Deja Vu Snowboard 141
Bindings: 2013 Burton Lexa EST
Boots: Felix vs Axel?

Hey guys, just trying to decide on which boots to go for the above boards/bindings set up. We have been using rental gears and boots (= stiff + heavy) for the past 2 seasons so not really sure which boots to go for.

Unfortunately, we have no stores nearby where we can try out these items.

Thanks so much!

KnoxBoarderX · 10-19-2012, 08:24 AM

Go with the Raptor over the invader. The raptor will give you the support you need for your style of riding. Plus it has the dynolite outsole. That makes the boot extremely light. I have the restricted hails with the same outsole and the weight difference between them and other boots is unreal.

As for the Felix vs Axel, the Axel has the dynolite outsole also, wich will make it much lighter than the Felix. If you don't care too much about weight, the Felix will have a tiny bit more support. Other than that, they are both fairly similar. They both have the therm-ic heat pre wired in, which is nice.

protik · 10-20-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KnoxBoarderX

Go with the Raptor over the invader. The raptor will give you the support you need for your style of riding. Plus it has the dynolite outsole. That makes the boot extremely light. I have the restricted hails with the same outsole and the weight difference between them and other boots is unreal.

As for the Felix vs Axel, the Axel has the dynolite outsole also, wich will make it much lighter than the Felix. If you don't care too much about weight, the Felix will have a tiny bit more support. Other than that, they are both fairly similar. They both have the therm-ic heat pre wired in, which is nice.

Hey mate, good advice there. I was wondering if you had any experiences with the mixed lacing system on the Raptor though (one speed lace + velcro straps)?

Also, just curious how does the Raptor compare to the Imperial boot as in terms of comfort/support?

Went to the city yesterday and we ended up trying out the Invader, Ambush, Mint, Emerald and Ride Sage. Found Ambush/Emrald to be a tad bit stiffer than we would like it to be (whereas Invader and Ride Sage were too soft). So I guess mid flex boots would suit us better.

Cheers!

KnoxBoarderX · 10-22-2012, 12:25 PM

I havent' had any experience on the mixed lacing system. My wife has boots with just the speed zone lacing and she loves them. The imperial will have a lot more support than the raptor. The raptor will be light from the dynolite outsole. They both have the same liner, so the comfort level should be about the same there.

The ambush and emerald are a 5 on stiffness, so they are right in the middle. Maybe try the axel for the lady and for you, try the moto, which is a 3, the rampant is a 4, and the hail or restricted hail, which are both 4. The rampant and restricted hail have dynolite outsole making them lighter.

Lamps · 10-22-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KnoxBoarderX

I havent' had any experience on the mixed lacing system. My wife has boots with just the speed zone lacing and she loves them. The imperial will have a lot more support than the raptor. The raptor will be light from the dynolite outsole. They both have the same liner, so the comfort level should be about the same there.

The ambush and emerald are a 5 on stiffness, so they are right in the middle. Maybe try the axel for the lady and for you, try the moto, which is a 3, the rampant is a 4, and the hail or restricted hail, which are both 4. The rampant and restricted hail have dynolite outsole making them lighter.

My wife also has full speedzone lacing, the convenience and adjustability makes it essential in her view.

vukovi21 · 10-22-2012, 03:27 PM

man i got ambush and i will say this much..no way are they mid stiff boots...maybe for the first two or three days lol..after that no more...they soften up to much for my liking..just my 2 cents

KnoxBoarderX · 10-22-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vukovi21

man i got ambush and i will say this much..no way are they mid stiff boots...maybe for the first two or three days lol..after that no more...they soften up to much for my liking..just my 2 cents

That's good to know, I've only had two pairs of hails. Regular and I now have the restricted. They are a 4 on stiffness, but it sounds like the ambush isn't too much more stiff.

protik · 10-22-2012, 09:22 PM

Really appreciate the reply guys. Just a quick one should my partner go for a size 5 or 5.5 Axel or size 5 or 6 Felix (no 5.5 for Felix)?
She measured size 5 on the slidey thingy, surprisingly found Mint (5) to be cramped, fitted Emerald (5.5) and found Ride Sage size 5 to be snug actually.
Thanks in advance!

vukovi21 · 10-23-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KnoxBoarderX

That's good to know, I've only had two pairs of hails. Regular and I now have the restricted. They are a 4 on stiffness, but it sounds like the ambush isn't too much more stiff.

i would say it like that....

maybe the mid stiff is the word but in my book it definitely tends to softer side of the spectrum!!! hope that helps

KnoxBoarderX · 10-23-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vukovi21

i would say it like that....

maybe the mid stiff is the word but in my book it definitely tends to softer side of the spectrum!!! hope that helps

What boots did you have before the ambush?

10-19-2012, 06:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
protik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 12	Burton boot advice Riding style: Free style/all mountain (don't do parks at all) Board: 2013 Burton Custom 158 Bindings: 2013 Burton Malavita EST Boots: Invader vs Raptor? Board: 2013 Restricted Deja Vu Snowboard 141 Bindings: 2013 Burton Lexa EST Boots: Felix vs Axel? Hey guys, just trying to decide on which boots to go for the above boards/bindings set up. We have been using rental gears and boots (= stiff + heavy) for the past 2 seasons so not really sure which boots to go for. Unfortunately, we have no stores nearby where we can try out these items. Thanks so much! Last edited by protik; 10-19-2012 at 06:57 AM.

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10-19-2012, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
KnoxBoarderX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 128	Go with the Raptor over the invader. The raptor will give you the support you need for your style of riding. Plus it has the dynolite outsole. That makes the boot extremely light. I have the restricted hails with the same outsole and the weight difference between them and other boots is unreal. As for the Felix vs Axel, the Axel has the dynolite outsole also, wich will make it much lighter than the Felix. If you don't care too much about weight, the Felix will have a tiny bit more support. Other than that, they are both fairly similar. They both have the therm-ic heat pre wired in, which is nice.

10-22-2012, 12:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
KnoxBoarderX Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 128	I havent' had any experience on the mixed lacing system. My wife has boots with just the speed zone lacing and she loves them. The imperial will have a lot more support than the raptor. The raptor will be light from the dynolite outsole. They both have the same liner, so the comfort level should be about the same there. The ambush and emerald are a 5 on stiffness, so they are right in the middle. Maybe try the axel for the lady and for you, try the moto, which is a 3, the rampant is a 4, and the hail or restricted hail, which are both 4. The rampant and restricted hail have dynolite outsole making them lighter.

10-22-2012, 03:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
vukovi21 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 74	man i got ambush and i will say this much..no way are they mid stiff boots...maybe for the first two or three days lol..after that no more...they soften up to much for my liking..just my 2 cents

10-22-2012, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
protik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 12	Really appreciate the reply guys. Just a quick one should my partner go for a size 5 or 5.5 Axel or size 5 or 6 Felix (no 5.5 for Felix)? She measured size 5 on the slidey thingy, surprisingly found Mint (5) to be cramped, fitted Emerald (5.5) and found Ride Sage size 5 to be snug actually. Thanks in advance!