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Old 11-12-2012, 11:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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damn i didnt realize that insoles would help the pain!

its not the cold, its the boot. I mean my toes are completely gone after a half hour. I just fight through the pain, but by noon im miserable and the day is over. It started dumping HARD at noon yesterday at Keystone and I had to leave. too much pain. toes didnt get full feeling back till around 6pm...

I guess i should try insoles...just still cant grasp how that would help my toes dying on me!

Thanks keep the suggestions coming!
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks keep the suggestions coming!
the first thing you need to do right now is get some insoles put them in your boots and go ride them.

if that doesn't work there is a pretty good chance that those boots don't fit well.

get some insoles and report back here. we can't really help you too much more until you do that. no point in telling you to get new bindings or boots if you haven't done that yet.

insoles, snug but not supertight boot lacing, experiment with looser binding straps - then come back here and tell us if anything helped.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
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right on shred... i might be taking the next couple of weeks off riding. no new snow in forecast this week and next weekend is thanksgiving weekend. so i have a couple weeks to get these insoles..

i will def report back though.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks guys.

Yep im using the thinnest smartwool phd's snowboard socks.

I did get them real tight on the rec of all 3 guys in the shop... saying they'd pack out nicely. I heat molded them after day 1. even after the molding my feet go numb.

How much do those super feet go for? I really don't wanna spend any more money and nothing happens..

I do crank down on the laces. the boots are already pretty tight maybe i wont even tie down teh "lower zone" at all and see what happens. LOL i also crank down on my bindings, maybe i wont do that either It just sucks that my day is pretty much ruined by noon because my feet are in excruciating pain.

so snug but slightly loosened, i tried that on one run but my calf part of my leg was moving too freely for my liking....

Why would those super feet insoles help at all by the way?
If you have dual zone, tighten the upper laces, but leave the lower laces pretty loose (that's what I do). In general, you should never need to crank down on your laces (that implies the heel of your boot is too wide for your feet and you are trying to compensate for that by over-tightening the laces. Try adding some C-pads to the outside of your liner to fill in the space... else buy new boots). If you boot actually fits you, then you shouldn't be able to pull the laces just "snug tight" you shouldn't get any heel lift if when you bend your knees.

Similarly, cranking down on your straps also implies your bindings don't fit your boots. If that' snot the case, then you are just using it as a psychological crutch. Again the bindings should only need to be snug against your boot... not boa constrictor tight.

A custom footbed (a stock superfoot to a lesser degree) will cup your heel and arch better... giving you better contact with boot (people tend to over-tighten their boot when they subconsciously feel the lack of good contact with the boot). So what comes in your boot is about 2mm of generic foam (utterly useless). A aftermarket footbed like a superfoot is a little better... but you really should go for a custom footbed like Superfoot Cork or Sole Supports. The cost a lot $180, but they last several years and you can use them in all your shoes/boots - so it ends up being less than $1 a day of use.

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Old 11-12-2012, 11:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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so i have a couple weeks to get these insoles..

i will def report back though.

Thanks for the help!
i'm 90% sure that it will address at least 90% of your problems here...

and FWIW pretty much all snowboard boots come with garbage insoles from the factory... get used to swapping them out as soon as you get em... hell sometimes i bring my insoles with me to try boots on.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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just to add, get fitted for your insoles...i have high arches the superfeet did not do it but ev soles did.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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i have the dual zones, i will tighten upper and leave lower as is to see if that helps.

I have super high arches... that link with the Gamechanger insoles seems nice and at 35 bucks its not too bad... EV soles for high arches huh? I'll have to look into those. And i dont know why i crank down on my bindings, i thought i had to!
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ok got home from work and threw the boots on to break em in a bit more...

walked around for about 10 minutes then sat down to use computer. toes numb just sitting here on the recliner for about 10 minutes...

left foot is ok, its the right thats the problem. the boots really arent too small... they hit the front and curl just so slightly.... left is ok, right foot is bigger than left by a little bit... anyways... what gives! they are numb just sitting here... how would an insole help that?

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What lone rider said.

How tight do you lace your liner? How tight are your laces over the top of your foot?
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Liner too tight or not straight? That's when I can feel it going numb instantly.
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