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Rome 390 + Vans Cirro = HATE?

Hello.

I'm riding Vans Cirro with Rome 390 2011. The problem I have is that the toe strap pinches my little finger when I use it over the boot's top. I tried to shorten the strap from the other side so it wouldn't reach my pinky toe but afterwards it is too short to tie it.
I rode 5 times with this setup and I already have a small hollow on my boot, where the strap has ended.
From what I see, there are 2 options:

1. The top of the boot is too soft. => Other boots
2. The toe strap is too short. => Other bindings

What could be the problem?
Thanks,
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Can you clarify this please? Pinching your finger???
Also you talk about having the strap over the top but then the picture appears to show the strap over the end of the boot?

It should either be over the toe at 45 ish deg or vertically over the top of the boot (my preference).
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Been there.

I'd recommend swapping out the toe strap to a Burton get-a-grip strap. It's a cheaper fix than buying a new set of bindings and you're getting a better cap strap.
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Can you clarify this please? Pinching your finger???
Also you talk about having the strap over the top but then the picture appears to show the strap over the end of the boot?

It should either be over the toe at 45 ish deg or vertically over the top of the boot (my preference).
I use it at a 45 degree angle normally, in the photo the strap is over the end of the boot so you can see better what I'm trying to say.
When I close the toe strap, the end of it just presses on my little finger. Maybe Extremo can help me explain better, looks like he knows what I'm talking about.




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Been there.

I'd recommend swapping out the toe strap to a Burton get-a-grip strap. It's a cheaper fix than buying a new set of bindings and you're getting a better cap strap.

http://www.dogfunk.com/burton-ultra-capstrap
Are these the ones? Or can you please post a link so I can see what you are talking about?

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Yeah it's ok I know exactly what you mean, i've experienced the same thing. But I managed to solve it.

My first set of boots (Kaiju) were doing that too - deforming slightly where the thicker part of the buckle was.

I found that adjusting the toecap position side to side and also getting it over the correct part of the toe helped.

But what made it go away completely was getting wearing the strap completely as a top strap not cap. I find that config much more responsive because the pressure is directly over the ball of the foot, sot it really holds the foot in place and you don't need to crank it.

However, I've since go the same boot a half size smaller and it does not deform at all wearing cap. Tried if for a few runs and its was fine. But still prefer the extra response of wearing them top by a mile.
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Burton Gettagrip Capstrap from Dogfunk.com
Are these the ones? Or can you please post a link so I can see what you are talking about?
Yeah that's them. You'll have to make sure they're compatible. I don't know if you can insert them through the baseplate the way you do with Burton and Union.

If they are this should eliminate the problem. They're more tapered and rounded so there is less to dig into the boot. Go with the large. The medium may cause the same problem.
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The problem is definitely the boots. If the Burton cap straps don't fit or work, send them back and perhaps you could consider getting new boots from a different brand.
Vans boots have much softer toe sections than most brands, which collapse under the toe straps. This was the main problem in reviews of multiple Vans boots on The Good Ride. http://thegoodride.com/boot-reviews/vans-cirro/

Hopefully everything will work out for you.
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The problem is definitely the boots. If the Burton cap straps don't fit or work, send them back and perhaps you could consider getting new boots from a different brand.
Vans boots have much softer toe sections than most brands, which collapse under the toe straps. This was the main problem in reviews of multiple Vans boots on The Good Ride. Vans Cirro Boot Review | The Good RideThe Good Ride

Hopefully everything will work out for you.
The problem is definitely not the boot. It is the combination of the boot and binding. Some just line up at that point. I have several pairs of bindings that I ride with the same boot. Only one strap does this. A different strap is a likely solution.
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The problem is definitely not the boot. It is the combination of the boot and binding. Some just line up at that point. I have several pairs of bindings that I ride with the same boot. Only one strap does this. A different strap is a likely solution.
So if the Burton strap doesn't fit, maybe contact Rome ask for a set of this season's 390 toe straps, which are open in the center and can be capped properly.
It looks like the 2011 390 has a flat strap designed to wear over the toe, which unfortunately has the compressing effect on the soft Vans toe box.
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So if the Burton strap doesn't fit, maybe contact Rome ask for a set of this season's 390 toe straps, which are open in the center and can be capped properly.
It looks like the 2011 390 has a flat strap designed to wear over the toe, which unfortunately has the compressing effect on the soft Vans toe box.
I guess asking for new straps cannot hurt. But FWIW the 11/12 390 toe straps work perfectly with my Vans boots - in fact they are just as good as the Burton ones in my experience. The Rome straps look flat but they actually stretch and conform to the boot really well.
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