Gdog42

Hey Steezy, I've been curious: Is the liner lacing the same regular laces as on the outside on the Nike boots? It looked like that in an image I saw and I thought wtf?

Nothing wrong with it. I've just never seen that before.

EpicSnowPlow

Yeap. Nike uses the same laces in their internal harness as the outside, except it's always red. I have a pair of ZF1's and they use the same lace. If I wanted to I could inter swap them with each other. Also Nike has a weird inner lacing system that took me a little while to figure out. But once you do figure it out it's really easy to over tighten.

G Steezy

+1 yo.
Epic how do you like the ZF1's? I'm considering, but now... not so sure... Give me some feedback?

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EpicSnowPlow

Loved them to death, except now they don't fit me. I just bought a pair of Kaijus, and I could say that the fit is almost identical (haven't ridden them yet). I've never ridden a pair of DKs so I wouldn't know what they are like. Anyway as for the ZF1s they lasted me about three seasons, and I go snowboarding about 15-20 times per season. They were a little stiff for my liking (I'm a park type of guy) cause of that power strap. But they were some of the comfiest boots I've ever had. I used to ride 32 Lashed and DC Park, but the ZF1s were hand down my favourite. No heel lift, great stock insole (replaced though with Superfeet), ingenious traditional lacing system, great liner, and a bunch of other things I could say I liked about the boot. I have a pretty average foot (width on the border of narrow and normal) and they fit me great. But if my foot was any wider I'd stay away from Nike. Also in contrast, to the other people's boots that turned to "mush" after 15 days, I have to say mine are still strong and can last another season or two. But as previously mentioned my feet grew out of them so I won't be able to wear them any more. In summary, if they fit your feet, and you're absolutely stoked on them I would get them.

G Steezy

I'm riding a pair of 32 Lashed right now.
The ZF1's are stiffer than the Lashed?
I'm primarily a park kind of guy myself. I don't really enjoy freeriding as much as I do hitting a rail or box.

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EpicSnowPlow

In my opinion the ZF1s are stiffer than the Lashed. But by no means did the stiffness, stop me from going into the park. I don't feel the stiffness of the ZF1 at all inhibited me performance, though it took a little while to get accustomed to. If you were looking for a softer Nike boot, I'd go with the Kaiju.

East§ide

was considering changing boots to Nike but I think im gonna go Rome instead

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kri$han

I have a pair of ZF1's and my experience has been positive.

When I first got them, the skate cuff was pinching a nerve in my foot (very, very isolated issue), but now that they've packed out somewhat, it doesnt happen anymore. I've also shredded one of the outer-laces after about 10 days, due to a defective lace-tightening mechanism; the internal metal piece exposed itself and shredded the lace. Good thing they came with backups.

This will be my 3rd season on them, but the last two seasons, I've only been out about 15 times each, so max of maybe 30-ish days. Used for everything: park, trees, back-country hiking, etc. My only real complaint is that they're not the warmest boots ever, but staying warm isn't too much of an issue for me.

For the price, I absolutely love them.

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Derp

Got my ZF1 last year and absolutely love them. I wore them out and about for a good 2 weeks before the season started vs heat molding.

Still holding up extremely well, but starting to notice some heel lift. Maybe I just need to lace up better and keep them tighter. idk. Didn't feel like I had any problems with lift my first season.

Just curious...would a new after market insole reduce or eliminate heel lift in a boot?

Gdog42

I also noticed that the cuff on Nike boots sticks out pretty far and has that harness thing on it, too.
Have those affected the length of your ankle straps on your bindings?

As you already know, I'm also in for new boots now. I narrowed it down to size 13 and have tried on and love ThirtyTwo's Prion and Prion FT. Now I just can't decide which one to keep.
Both of the lacing systems hold great and do not move at all. I've just ordered a pair of the FTs in 13.

Sucks because tomorrow I'm going boarding and I'll have to wear my old Ride boots with that nasty single Boa on them! Personally, I don't like that thing because I can only tighten it in one spot and it's easy for me to over-tighten it.

Glad you like your new Nike boots But don't those seem a little too expensive? I've seen the around $500-$600 and although they're good, they don't honestly look like they're worth THAT much. I think that's just Nike doing the sports brand thing where they put their logo on a product and that somehow shoots the value through the roof. Under Armour and some other sports brands also do that.
No offense to your new boots though!