Slush Puppie

I would say the opposite. I have an 8.5 burton moto and an 8 Kaiju, i put them at pretty much the same size.

After full pack out, I could wear a full size smaller Kaiju than I'd wear a nike running shoe. But they'd be a superb fit and as comfy.

I suspect those in the 'go up a size' camp are also those in the 'they pack out too much camp'.

I do agree that after 15 days they do feel softer though in the upper.

p.s. also the lace loops destroy the padding on ankle straps. It took 2 days to tear holes in a new pair of cartel asym straps. Don't know if thats an issue on other laced boots of not?

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