Shell test - Snowboarding Forum

snoogans · 01-25-2013, 01:31 PM

The store assistant here has a method for testing boot size. Take out the liner, next put your foot in the boot without the liner, next see how much space remains at the heal.

He says you want to aim do 1.5 to 2.5 finger widths. What do you guys think of this method?

BurtonAvenger · 01-25-2013, 02:41 PM

I think it's bullshit if you want a solid fit because it's based off a hard shell and different liner material. It comes from ski boot fitting.

lonerider · 01-25-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by snoogans

The store assistant here has a method for testing boot size. Take out the liner, next put your foot in the boot without the liner, next see how much space remains at the heal.

He says you want to aim do 1.5 to 2.5 finger widths. What do you guys think of this method?

That's the old test you do for ski boot fitting (the plastic part of a ski boot is called the "shell"). Not a good test for soft boots.

Extremo · 01-27-2013, 06:39 AM

It's just as good as any measurement. Liners are made of different material, are different thicknesses, and some pack out more than others so you'll be in the ballpark.

But you could buy a boot that fits out of the box but after 20 days in them don't fit anymore because of the same reasons above. Plus you have to consider boots won't have a perfect fit and you're better off learning the craft of boot fitting if you're a serious rider.

john doe · 01-27-2013, 03:30 PM

Sounds like this shell test only pertains to the length of the boot. That is the easiest part to get right and if that was all that matters ordering boot online would be nearly worry free. But you also have toe width, heel width, ankle size, calf size, foot height, and overall foot volume.

lonerider · 01-28-2013, 01:27 PM

Just to be clear... the reason why ski fitters do the shell test is because the the liners than come in ski boots are usually completely made of heat-moldable foam (most snowboard boots only have a little bit of foam around the ankle and toebox area). The inside of the hard plastic shell is irregularly shaped and the un-molded liner is kind of blocky (it is going to squish a lot to match the interior of the hard plastic shell.

Because of this, it is very uncomfortable/painful to wear a ski boot without molding the liners. Of course, you can't mold the liner of the boot until AFTER you've paid for it... which you don't really want to do until you are sure the boot will fit... hence the "shell test".

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snoogans Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 15	Shell test The store assistant here has a method for testing boot size. Take out the liner, next put your foot in the boot without the liner, next see how much space remains at the heal. He says you want to aim do 1.5 to 2.5 finger widths. What do you guys think of this method?

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BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,021	I think it's bullshit if you want a solid fit because it's based off a hard shell and different liner material. It comes from ski boot fitting. __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

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john doe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,245	Sounds like this shell test only pertains to the length of the boot. That is the easiest part to get right and if that was all that matters ordering boot online would be nearly worry free. But you also have toe width, heel width, ankle size, calf size, foot height, and overall foot volume. __________________ 2011 Smokin Buck Ferton 155 2013 Flow NX2-SE 2013 Flow Hylite boa Burton Stagger pants/jacket Smith I/O

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01-27-2013, 06:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Extremo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NH Posts: 3,112	It's just as good as any measurement. Liners are made of different material, are different thicknesses, and some pack out more than others so you'll be in the ballpark. But you could buy a boot that fits out of the box but after 20 days in them don't fit anymore because of the same reasons above. Plus you have to consider boots won't have a perfect fit and you're better off learning the craft of boot fitting if you're a serious rider.

01-28-2013, 01:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
lonerider Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 947	Just to be clear... the reason why ski fitters do the shell test is because the the liners than come in ski boots are usually completely made of heat-moldable foam (most snowboard boots only have a little bit of foam around the ankle and toebox area). The inside of the hard plastic shell is irregularly shaped and the un-molded liner is kind of blocky (it is going to squish a lot to match the interior of the hard plastic shell. Because of this, it is very uncomfortable/painful to wear a ski boot without molding the liners. Of course, you can't mold the liner of the boot until AFTER you've paid for it... which you don't really want to do until you are sure the boot will fit... hence the "shell test".