Yea I just did a shell fit and there's too much room. They're comfortable but need to be smaller. At least a 10.5
I'll go back tomorrow and work it out. Thanks for all the help.
Good luck, like some others here I ended up with a boot several sizes smaller than I usually wore for shoes. There's nothing like the feeling of a properly fit boot, you barely need to do them up to feel locked into your board. If you have to crank the laces, they're not right!
Got the Rough Diamond's in today. Went with the 10's and glad I did. I probably could have even with with the 9.5.
Out of the box my toes are just touching the end of the liner. In a slightly bent position they aren't touching at all. When they say size down, they really mean size down.
Everywhere else the boot fits well.
The outside profile is 8mm longer than my size 10.5 Celsius Cirrus. Not a big deal for me because they still fit my bindings, but damn.
Extremo - What size Burton boot do you wear? I've been interested in one of the Deeluxe boots that have the three-zone speedlace with one zone over the instep, but didn't know where to start on sizing. Just out of curiosity, how come you didn't get another pair of Celsius boots?
I've never been able to find perfect fitting boots, wide feet, narrow heel and ankles. I can have boots that crush my toes and still get heel lift. I actually don't care anymore, I used to tie my shit really tight... now I barely tighten my boots, my bindings dont get ratcheted down too tight either, my feet slop around and it doesn't bother me at all haha... maybe I'm just wierd but I actually like having it all loose.