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Old 02-24-2013, 09:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Well looks like the final list for me is going to be the Salomon F.2/F3, Burton SLX, and 32 Lashed. Everything else I can't find in a local store so they are unfortunately out of the running. Heading out in a few mins to go try them on.. Im hoping that by trying the lashed it will give me an idea if the TM-Two's will be a good fit cause thats the plan of attack since they don't' stock the TM's but have the lashed.
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Well looks like the final list for me is going to be the Salomon F.2/F3, Burton SLX, and 32 Lashed. Everything else I can't find in a local store so they are unfortunately out of the running. Heading out in a few mins to go try them on.. Im hoping that by trying the lashed it will give me an idea if the TM-Two's will be a good fit cause thats the plan of attack since they don't' stock the TM's but have the lashed.
Wow man! They are the brands I have narrowed it down to as well. I'm stuck between 32 Lashed FT's and TM-Two's, but I'm really leaning towards F2.0's. I"ll be going to my LBS tomorrow to try them too. Good luck! Let me know how it goes.
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idk, the F20 felt great when I first put them on, but I've been riding them for about 20 days now and they still aren't really breaking in. That might seem like a good thing as far as longevity, but, on those first to last chair days, the f20 kinda feel like wearing a stiff shell with no liner...especially if wearing a lighter/performance sock.

At first, the worst thing was getting painful rubbing on my Achilles tendon (switching to superfeet insoles minimized that by about 75%), but I'm still getting other sore areas due to the thin, spotty "fusion liner". I really don't wanna go the super thick sock route, but that may be the only way to get F20s close that full liner comfort.

I'm gonna keep wearing mine because they're now (barely) acceptably comfortable, but, in hindsight, I would skip the F-series and get a standard boot with a full removable liner (or maybe try burton shrinkage)
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idk, the F20 felt great when I first put them on, but I've been riding them for about 20 days now and they still aren't really breaking in. That might seem like a good thing as far as longevity, but, on those first to last chair days, the f20 kinda feel like wearing a stiff shell with no liner...especially if wearing a lighter/performance sock.

At first, the worst thing was getting painful rubbing on my Achilles tendon (switching to superfeet insoles minimized that by about 75%), but I'm still getting other sore areas due to the thin, spotty "fusion liner". I really don't wanna go the super thick sock route, but that may be the only way to get F20s close that full liner comfort.

I'm gonna keep wearing mine because they're now (barely) acceptably comfortable, but, in hindsight, I would skip the F-series and get a standard boot with a full removable liner (or maybe try burton shrinkage)
This is discouraging, even though feet are like fingerprints. I think I will buy my boots early (next month) and wear them everyday, on the carpet, around the house just to see if problems arise, before my LBS return policy expires. It's either that or get stuck with miserable feet on the hill all day.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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the f20 kinda feel like wearing a stiff shell with no liner...especially if wearing a lighter/performance sock.
I picked up a pair of F22 with the expectation they would be slightly softer than my 2009 Malamutes - and holy hell, they seem stiffer compared to my malamutes when they were brand new.

Your post confirms what I suspect regarding the F series boots - still, won't change much, won't pack out, and the padding is not as complete as a boot with a separate liner.

That said, I'm debating between an F3.0 and F4.0 now. I wanted something just a touch softer than the malamute so that when I land jumps (while freeriding) it doesn't punish me the same way the malamutes do. Just a touch of forgiveness would be nice, but nice and stiff to charge hard when I want.
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According to salomon's website the F2.0 & 3.0 have the same flex, liner foam, liner concept, and outsole. The differences are the lacing system and footbed. If this is the case with the F series (stiffness and lack of break-in), I'm going to take another look at burton or stick with what I know, 32.
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According to salomon's website the F2.0 & 3.0 have the same flex, liner foam, liner concept, and outsole. The differences are the lacing system and footbed. If this is the case with the F series (stiffness and lack of break-in), I'm going to take another look at burton or stick with what I know, 32.
Just wondering if you got out to the shop at all. I was able to get out but they didn't have anything i wanted to try in my size except for the 32 Lashed. The lashed didn't feel all that comfortable to me. Seemed like there wasn't much in the way of plush inserts. It fit nice but it definitely felt like a "bare bones " boot. The rep did suggest the K2 darko's and I put them on and man were they comfortable. I think I may order the 32 TM's from dogfunk and see of the insert is a little better then the Lashed. If not I may have to go with the K2. All they had in my size in the was of Salomon was the savage and I didn't like the regid feel to those.
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Just wondering if you got out to the shop at all. I was able to get out but they didn't have anything i wanted to try in my size except for the 32 Lashed. The lashed didn't feel all that comfortable to me. Seemed like there wasn't much in the way of plush inserts. It fit nice but it definitely felt like a "bare bones " boot. The rep did suggest the K2 darko's and I put them on and man were they comfortable. I think I may order the 32 TM's from dogfunk and see of the insert is a little better then the Lashed. If not I may have to go with the K2. All they had in my size in the was of Salomon was the savage and I didn't like the regid feel to those.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to get to the shop today, business picked up, which is always a good thing. I will probably get out there either Thurs or Fri. I'm in the same boat, being that the season is winding down in my area, I assume it will not be a lot of in-stock items to choose from. I may end up just ordering from Dogfunk and returning them if they don't fit right. I've narrowed it down to Burton Ambush or Imperial, 32 Lashed or TM-TWO, but I'm really eyeing the DC GIZMO. But who knows, I may go at the end of this week and come across a pair that were completely off the radar. This is time assuming but totally worth it. Let me know how the TM-TWOs work for you.
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Unfortunately I wasn't able to get to the shop today, business picked up, which is always a good thing. I will probably get out there either Thurs or Fri. I'm in the same boat, being that the season is winding down in my area, I assume it will not be a lot of in-stock items to choose from. I may end up just ordering from Dogfunk and returning them if they don't fit right. I've narrowed it down to Burton Ambush or Imperial, 32 Lashed or TM-TWO, but I'm really eyeing the DC GIZMO. But who knows, I may go at the end of this week and come across a pair that were completely off the radar. This is time assuming but totally worth it. Let me know how the TM-TWOs work for you.
Yeah tell me about it! I have spent days checking into this.. Ill definitely keep you posted about the TM's.. If they don't work i think I'm going with the Darko's..They were like wearing pillows and its the bottom part of the outer boot and insert is BOA and outer top is lace so you get the duel adjustment. I would really suggest it if you find nothing else to your liking. And I found them for less the 200 on clearance which is awesome!!
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Yeah tell me about it! I have spent days checking into this.. Ill definitely keep you posted about the TM's.. If they don't work i think I'm going with the Darko's..They were like wearing pillows and its the bottom part of the outer boot and insert is BOA and outer top is lace so you get the duel adjustment. I would really suggest it if you find nothing else to your liking. And I found them for less the 200 on clearance which is awesome!!
Yeah, same with the DC Gizmo's. They have a hybrid lace (traditional laces up top and a Boa Coiler speed-lace on the lower half). And Dogfunk has them for $160.
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