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Old 02-21-2013, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Grabbed a pair of Burton Ambushs from backcountry.com earlier this week - they just came in today. I've been wearing them around the house to try and break them in....after about a half hour my feet were killing me...not painful but just numbness and pins and needles. Is this normal for burton boots/breaking in boots in general? The boots fit - my toes are just to the edge of the toe box, I can just about feel them with my toes. They are not curled or pressed against it hard at all.

When buying boots I normally head to a local shop, however I work two jobs and I'm not near any decent snowboard shops (much less any that have a decent bootfitter). So, the intrawebs was my next best option.

I am currently in between a 9 and 9.5 for foot size. I picked up a 9 in the Ambush to get a more snug fit...I was getting a bit of heel lift in my previous boots (Ride Jacksons) and they were 9.5.

Would you recommend I try and break them in as best I can or send them back? I've heard tell that Burton boots can cause foot numbness but I don't want to give up yet...

Good thing about backcountry is an excellent return policy.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds odd. The Burton's have those heated liners, my Hail's were pretty comfy out the box. Some packing out will still occur, but not as significant as other companies. Pretty close 1:1 sizing.
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How tight are you cranking them? Good boots only need to be moderately tight. My Driver Xs were tight for the first couple days, now they fit like a glove!
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Burton boots run on the narrower side of things from what i hear (and experienced with my own boots). The pain/pins and needles sounds like it is an issue with the width, which is similar to the problem i had with my Ambushes recently (only happened on the slope, when strapped in etc). If you have this problem around the house it will only get worse on the slope.

As for sizing, i was always under the impression that the half sizes in shoes were always the same length but a bit more width. So getting the 9 might have exacerbated the narrowness problem.

For me, i took the following steps and they are now starting to feel much better:

1. Took out the inner sole for a tad more space inside
2. lower section not tightened at all
3. Hair dryer for 3-4 minutes then quickly put the boots on and try to mold them (5 stomps on the heel then 5 stomps straight up/down)
4. Used business socks instead of sports socks

They are moldable according to burton customer service, and in my opinion that step helped. After 4 - 5 days riding, i have returned the inner sole and started doing slight tightening on the lower section. A few more days and i will start using normal socks i think.
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Burton boots run on the narrower side of things from what i hear (and experienced with my own boots). The pain/pins and needles sounds like it is an issue with the width, which is similar to the problem i had with my Ambushes recently (only happened on the slope, when strapped in etc). If you have this problem around the house it will only get worse on the slope.

As for sizing, i was always under the impression that the half sizes in shoes were always the same length but a bit more width. So getting the 9 might have exacerbated the narrowness problem.

For me, i took the following steps and they are now starting to feel much better:

1. Took out the inner sole for a tad more space inside
2. lower section not tightened at all
3. Hair dryer for 3-4 minutes then quickly put the boots on and try to mold them (5 stomps on the heel then 5 stomps straight up/down)
4. Used business socks instead of sports socks

They are moldable according to burton customer service, and in my opinion that step helped. After 4 - 5 days riding, i have returned the inner sole and started doing slight tightening on the lower section. A few more days and i will start using normal socks i think.
Wow...thanks tokyo! I took out the inner soles and they feel much better. I'm curious though...if I ride without the soles is it going to be bad for the boot and/or my riding? I can't imagine it would do much, but just checking.

Probably gonna bring them to a shop to get molded this weekend. I would do it right now but I live with 4 dudes...not a single hair dryer among the 5 of us. Ha.
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Wow...thanks tokyo! I took out the inner soles and they feel much better. I'm curious though...if I ride without the soles is it going to be bad for the boot and/or my riding? I can't imagine it would do much, but just checking.

Probably gonna bring them to a shop to get molded this weekend. I would do it right now but I live with 4 dudes...not a single hair dryer among the 5 of us. Ha.
Go get some super feet insoles.
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The shop i asked warned that the insoles were there for a reason and that i might get some unwanted heel lift etc. But for me it was a matter of unbearable pain or being able to use the boots. After a few days I was able to put it back in without any problems.

To be honest i couldnt tell the difference with it in or not.
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I wear Burton Ambush in a 13. Not a lot of selection at my size so I only tried on Jacksons, Rulers, and Ambush. Skipped the Ions cuz I didn't wanna spend the scratch. The Ambush was the best fit by far. They're slightly wider than the Rulers so they're one of the wider Burtons.

I wear snowboard specific socks and the boots fit quite well. They mold nicely to your feet. Super feet feel much stiffer than the stockers for me. Depends on your specific foot as to if they'll be better for you.
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I wear Burton Ambush in a 13. Not a lot of selection at my size so I only tried on Jacksons, Rulers, and Ambush. Skipped the Ions cuz I didn't wanna spend the scratch. The Ambush was the best fit by far. They're slightly wider than the Rulers so they're one of the wider Burtons.

I wear snowboard specific socks and the boots fit quite well. They mold nicely to your feet. Super feet feel much stiffer than the stockers for me. Depends on your specific foot as to if they'll be better for you.
They are stiffer because the are more supportive, he's obviously having issues with the current ones. I use super feet in mine, couldn't be happier. I used to have feet cramping, heel lift, and just generally my feet always hurt when I rode. I switched to super feet and now I don't even notice my feet anymore....the way it should be.
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As for sizing, i was always under the impression that the half sizes in shoes were always the same length but a bit more width.
I'm not sure this is entirely correct. Boots with 1:1 lasting have different size shells and liners for half and half sizes. Others, which tend to be lower end and less expensive, have the same size shell for half and whole sizes (not sure in what order), however, the liner is thicker to compensate for a smaller foot. It is always good to ask the boot fitter if the boot has 1:1 lasting.

Sheepstealer - As others have mentioned, I would suggest a custom footbed. At least Superfeet, if not a Sidas custom-molded foot bed. A custom footbed will keep you feet from going as flat as they might if you had no footbed and this might help with your foot issues. Also, don't crank down your lower laces so much. Just barely tighten them.
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