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Old 02-26-2013, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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female Ladies SB boots- Definitive narrow foot/no heel lift list

I have an issue with the lack of information for ladies out there regarding sb boots. Flex, yes, stiffness, yes, intermediate vs beginner vs advance, yep that information is all there.

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Girls as you know, come in all different shapes, from narrow feet and or calves to large.

Myself, well I am a s/m calved, widish accross knuckles, smallest Achilles ever (thanks to mums thick ankle genetics) tiny footed lady. So for me, boots NEVER fit. The best I have done is Nike ZF1 +foam shim+foam U bar by Tongar tools. The first lace loophole snapped yesterday. Sad. Back to square one.

My first pair of sb boots ever was the Salomon Kiana which I was later told was more idea for people with large calves and broad feet. They ended up in the bin. 32s are a lovely stiff boot, but are too wide for me.

What I would really LOVE is if reviewers like snowboard.findthebest and TheGoodRide would include the actual FIT of the boot ie narrow,med, wide. This I am SURE would help many of those with heel lift problems seek out the best boots for them.

I would like to make a list of boots which us gals can go back to. Boots some of us have had some luck with and why. Please include if you needed to make any adjustments?
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree!!!!! Although I do have to say that I think a good boot guy can fix up just bout any pair of boots. But miracles happen when you start with a good boot AND then have it costumized.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I wish the SB industry would just understand lady feet better.

There are two main kinds of lady feet as far as heel lift is concerned.
The gals who can wear pretty slingback shoes and ones that cannot. I can't (they just slide off) and I would guess anyone else who can't, have problems with heel lift in SB boots.

Wish I could afford to design my own.
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I'm not sure women have any worse a time with fitting snowboard boots than men do. I have difficult feet, but it's not just my narrow heel. It's also my widish, flattish forefoot, my high instep, and my relatively large calves. I have the same difficulty with hiking boots, climbing shoes, and so on. It's just something you get used to.

The best I've come up with so far is the Salomon F2.0. I love them while I'm riding, but I still have to crank on them a bit, and they're still a bit too small in the calves. I have to leave the liner and the cuff loose if I'm hiking or skinning, or they start inspiring homicidal thoughts. I may try to jam some J-bars in there so I don't have to tighten them as much, but I'm not sure how doable that is with the Fusion liners.
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I'm not sure women have any worse a time with fitting snowboard boots than men do. I have difficult feet, but it's not just my narrow heel. It's also my widish, flattish forefoot, my high instep, and my relatively large calves. I have the same difficulty with hiking boots, climbing shoes, and so on. It's just something you get used to.
I think the issue is that men have more selection and more upper level/pro model boots. Even Nitros top of the range is still a medium soft boot.
There are many guy boots that I think 'wow that is just what I am looking for' But there is no true girls equivalent. I wear a 5.5 so just getting a mens boot is not an option.

How long have you had your F20s? I am curious because my Salmons got SOO SOO soft they would squash out when putting my binding on. The width plus them getting so soft put me off the brand for boots (bindings I love however) I also have an issue with their sizing. They seems to come up really big. I would need a 4.5 according to their sizing chart. A 5 at the very least. The Kianas I had were a 6 and I was swimming in them.

But don't you also wish there was a narrow-wide fit in the description or on the larger review sites?
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I don't know if my heels are narrow (though I'm in the "can't wear slingbacks" group) and I wear a size 4 boot. I think I'm pretty much limited to Burton and Salomon because everyone else seems to bottom out at size 5.

I found my Burton Sapphires were tight on my right heel until I had them heat moulded. I had to go back a few times because the bootfitters were reluctant to make drastic changes, but now the fit is great.
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I think the issue is that men have more selection and more upper level/pro model boots. Even Nitros top of the range is still a medium soft boot.
There are many guy boots that I think 'wow that is just what I am looking for' But there is no true girls equivalent. I wear a 5.5 so just getting a mens boot is not an option.
Yeah, that is a problem, and it's present in most outdoor gear. There's just a smaller market for high-end sports gear for women generally.

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How long have you had your F20s? I am curious because my Salmons got SOO SOO soft they would squash out when putting my binding on. The width plus them getting so soft put me off the brand for boots (bindings I love however) I also have an issue with their sizing. They seems to come up really big. I would need a 4.5 according to their sizing chart. A 5 at the very least. The Kianas I had were a 6 and I was swimming in them.
I've had them a few weeks, and put about 20 hours on them. These are the newer version, the F2.0. I got to look at both, and these are stiffer and have much tougher material over the forefoot than the older ones. They also seem to be sized a bit differently. I wear an 8 in street shoes, and I got an 8 in the F2.0s, but I would have gone with an 8.5 in the F20s. They definitely run a bit small, and don't pack out much (probably due to the Fusion liner and low profile shell).

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But don't you also wish there was a narrow-wide fit in the description or on the larger review sites?
Maybe, but I haven't seen that sort of description very often in any other sport-specific footwear, so I can't fault the manufacturers. I suppose they could show you which lasts they used on different models (I think I remember a mountaineering/hiking boot company that did that), but that still only gives you information in two-dimensions for a three-dimensional foot. It could cut down on some of the trial and error, but you're still going to be trying on a lot of boots.
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If it helps any, my gf has a high arch, narrow feet and narrow ankles and just bought a pair of Northwave boots that are phenomenal for her . She came from a pair of 32's that packed out to more than a full size too big
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I've got normal width, flat low volume feet, narrow heels&ankles. I've tried on over a dozen boots, and except for one or two pairs, they all seem to fit just fine. In fact I almost never have trouble finding shoes that fit, except for flats.

My Northwave Freedoms were great when I got them, but packed out and now I get too much heel lift when riding. Still seems good near the beginning of the season, but gets packed out again after a couple of days. Recently got Burton Qs with a heat moldable liner -- we'll see how these hold up. Either way, I'm starting to be convinced that a stiff boot is a good substitute for reducing heel lift.
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I've also noticed that Stance has started making socks with rubber strips along the heel area to add some friction inside the boot.. Very cool idea
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