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Stiff boots or Soft boots?

How do their function differ?

Which one is more recommended for high speed powder snowboarding?


and how bout the Boa lacing system vs. traditional human hand one?

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How do their function differ?

Which one is more recommended for high speed powder snowboarding?


and how bout the Boa lacing system vs. traditional human hand one?
stiff more responsive for more aggressive riding, soft for more flex and play often used by park boarders.

I prefer the boa or speed lacing but that is because I am lazy and find it easier to get a tighter fit.

I would ride my ions in powder but then I wouldn't say I am high speed, they are a reasonably stiff boot, but I like a bit of forgiveness if I am out all day and playing around a bit too
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stiff more responsive for more aggressive riding, soft for more flex and play often used by park boarders.

I prefer the boa or speed lacing but that is because I am lazy and find it easier to get a tighter fit.

I would ride my ions in powder but then I wouldn't say I am high speed, they are a reasonably stiff boot, but I like a bit of forgiveness if I am out all day and playing around a bit too

stiff more responsive for more aggressive riding, soft for more flex

so thats just the same rule as the bindings, right?
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stiff more responsive for more aggressive riding, soft for more flex

so thats just the same rule as the bindings, right?
you go it
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the imperial, ion, and the slx, which one shld i get?
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stiff more responsive for more aggressive riding, soft for more flex

so thats just the same rule as the bindings, right?
...and boards

Im a big fan on double BOA system of K2. One BOA for the inner boot, one for the outer. Tighten the boots on the fly for a run, relax with one movement of the hand at the chairlift to allow blood circulation again. Also proofed to be comfortable for hiking cause you can make mikro adjustments while walking to feel as comfortable as possible all the time.

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the imperial, ion, and the slx, which one shld i get?
Ion: Stiff boot (if you know you want a stiff boot this one is a good choice)

Imperial: Softer than ion (you want a little more flex)

Slx: softer than ion, ultralight hence high price (you really care about weight and not about cost)

Driver X: You are obsessed with stiff boots

People who ride really stiff boots tend to know who they are, and often have really stiff bindings too, and probably stiff charging oriented boards. If that's not you then imperial is a good choice, otherwise ion or driver x for stiffness.

Slx is a specialty for those who will pay up for lightweight and latest tech.

Personally I hate hand lacing, it's a personal preference thing.

As you set your price point remember boots are like gasoline, you buy them, use them up and buy more, they don't last forever. I think 50 to 75 days is the lifespan, curious what others think.
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I own the 4th pair of boots since '92. Ok, first 10 years I only did around 50days in the same ugly purple plastic boots, but the last two pairs (Burton) were in use app. 150 days each. The K2 are used 40days now and look perfectly fine. Husband had Niedecker boots that were worn out after 80days. His former Burton lasted also 150days. Now his Ride look also pretty used after 40days...

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I own the 4th pair of boots since '92. Ok, first 10 years I only did around 50days in the same ugly purple plastic boots, but the last two pairs (Burton) were in use app. 150 days each. The K2 are used 40days now and look perfectly fine. Husband had Niedecker boots that were worn out after 80days. His former Burton lasted also 150days. Now his Ride look also pretty used after 40days...
That's helpful data. I think that if you wear a stiff boot they will soften a little bit and as they get a bit softer you might want to replace them whereas a medium stiff boot might be fine even if the soften a small bit through use.

Definitely looks can indicate wear but sometimes when I replace my boots the old ones look fine but the new ones (same boot and size) feel much stiffer compared to 50-75 day used boots.
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Stiff boots for me. Comfy and stiff.
I ride Salomon malamutes, got two pairs occasionaly and one pair of RC10 hardboots.
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