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Old 10-03-2013, 03:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Boot decision - K2 or Ride, both fit but differently

I'm in the game for new boots, exclusively freeride. Had the K2 Contour last year which I loved for their double boa on the fly adjustability i.e., possibility to tighten the boot for a run, open it loose for the chair. If thightened well, they are very responsive.

Been to my go-to shop to get a new K2 Contour. The guy gave me a Ride Cadence to try, just as a second option and now I'm torn which one to get. Having the K2 on the other foot, I could compare them directly. The Ride fits my foot as if it was designed for me, very snug, not the slightest heel lift even if it's loosely tightened. But it is slightly less stiff than the K2. But with the K2, I only get a comparable heel hold if I tighten them till the boas moan.

Reading the description of the Ride Cadence at Ride, it says "high-end freestyle boot". Er...
Reading both descriptions at evo they rate the the K2 Contour a tad softer than the Ride Cadence, so the opposite to my impression having a boot of each simultaneously on one foot. Er...

What's the better decision? Take the boot that perfectly fits the foot/heel but not the riding style the manufacturer designed it for (whatever that means), or take the one with a tad less perfect foot/heel fit but is a bit stiffer? My line so far was the stiffer the better (i.e., K2 Contour), but... can't get the amount of heel hold of the Ride out of my head...
At the same time, I'm looking for more responsive bindings. Well, getting stiffer bindings but simultaneously choosing a less stiff boot, wouldn't that somehow result in nonsense?
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Old 10-03-2013, 05:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think you been riding long enough that your level of ability is more than enough to compensate & overcome any fractional limitations from one boot to another. I would go with the ones that fit like a glove as long as they meet the requirement for the stiffness you're looking for.
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if it fits, wear it
it it doesn't fit, don't wear it
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I think you been riding long enough that your level of ability is more than enough to compensate & overcome any fractional limitations from one boot to another. I would go with the ones that fit like a glove as long as they meet the requirement for the stiffness you're looking for.
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...and that.

And my understanding is that there really is not much of a difference between these boots in terms of stiffness.
Plus boot response comes much more from fit than from stiffness - you won't get much response out of the stiffest boot if your foot is moving inside the boot.
Finally, bindings and board make much of a difference in overall response of the setup. The benefit of stiffer boots is not so much response as it is stability (especially for people with weaker ankles).
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Neni I think you answered your own question. Get the boot that fits. Sounds like the Ride's fit better than the K2's. Ride also makes a quality boot from my experience. So does K2. So you have that going for you.

I also agree that you are an experienced enough rider that the difference in boot flex is not going to be an issue for you.
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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additionally, I recall another thread where you spoke about thinking that foot pain/numbness was a normal part of riding... it's not. Or rather, it doesn't have to be. Plus all the stuff the other guys said.
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+1 to all above! I'd really like to hear what you think when your feet stop hurting in boots. Mine hurt for the first few days of the season when the muscles need to build up again, then it's comfort season!
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You guys are great. Thanks for all the help!
Foot pain/cramps/numbness was a lot better last season with the new K2 (one of the many reasons why last year was the best season I had so far), it was only still bad while hiking and at the end of the day, so I already thought, it's perfect. Ha, and now you guys come and tell me, it's completey unnecessary... that rises new expectations

Tried the Cadence again today. They're really like gloves. Gonna get them with the first salary of the new job (the tight students years are over ) and well, if it is necessary to get new ones every year cos they're done after one season, then be it. Hope, I'll find a pair in Anchorage as well, so I'd have new ones for '15 bit cheaper than the 400$ they cost over here

They just unpacked a batch of new bindings in the shop. The guy gave me one to try he thought could be something for me, since the ankle strap is lokated a bit higher than with other brands. I had the impression, that this reduced the amount of pressure on the wrist, while still holding the boot perfectly fine (less down-pressure, more back-pressure). Gonna try these K2 Company on snow soon.
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I have a similar question but a slightly different way of putting it.

I just ordered and tried on 9 different pairs of boots. I took notes and will be posting up my opinions, but for now I've got it down to the K2 Thraxis and the 32 Focus Boa. I really like both; the 32s are a tad stiffer probably due to thier being slightly taller, but the K2s are more comfortable, still plenty stiff enough without being steel casts, and and I am leaning towards them. I want to like the 32s more, but there are all these weird pressure points on my ankles and shins that get worse over the few minutes I'll walk around in them in. I don't have enough experience with new boots to judge whether it's the kind of thing that will mold to my foot and get better, or if it's the sort of thing that hurts during try-on and will not go away and keep bothering me on the mountain.

My question is, is heat molding the 32 liners going to fix the pressure points? Or is it smarter and more obvious to go with the ones that start off more comfortable without any special heat forming?

It seems obvious to go with the ones that feel better from the get-go. But the variable of heat molding makes the decision a little trickier.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
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sounds like you should go with the k2's. most places i know require you to buy it before they will mold it, so what happens if the molding doesn't fix the issue...
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