Burton p1.1, Ride beta, alpha, and rome 390 - Snowboarding Forum

bubbachubba340 · 02-21-2009, 04:49 PM

Im getting some mixed opinions when it comes to bindings. Some say The beta is a mid stiffness. some say it is stiffer. Some say the 390s are flexy and others say they are stiff. Mainly what im looking for is something that is fairly flexy like my 06 burton customs, but more sdvanced with nicer straps etc. I mainly do jibs and jumps up to maybe 15 foot tables, so a stiff binding doesnt suit me well. Any reviews on the 4 bindings in the title?

jmacphee9 · 02-21-2009, 05:30 PM

those are all stiffer then the customs, the p1s are probbbbbbbably the softest though, but im not sure because ive never compared them next to the 390s. the 390s arent as soft as people make them out to be though. i would say that they are a great park binding, that can handle itself very well out of the park as long as your not racing..

i would pick the romes out of the 4

02-21-2009, 06:19 PM

The Rides are gonna be way too stiff for your riding style. They work fine for freeriding and bombing tho.

bubbachubba340 · 02-21-2009, 08:57 PM

OK also one more binding to add to the mix. the k2 sweater. I found them somewhere for 120 and they would match my k2 www rocker well also. What do you think about these?

02-21-2009, 11:27 PM

The K2 Sweater is just a Formula with a different colorway. If I were you, I'd just get the regular 09 Formula's for $40 cheaper unless you really care about looks.

The Formula's are an awesome binding and if you do decide to go for them, get the 09's and not the 08's. They have been greatly improved. Awesome all-mountain bindings. If you were more park oriented, the K2 Auto is also an awesome pick. I have both the 09 Formula's and Auto's, so this is coming from first hand use.

bubbachubba340 · 02-21-2009, 11:47 PM

Im very freestyle oriented. Lots of time in the park and pipe. How flexible would you say these bindings are? I found the sweaters for 120 but if the formulas were cheaper i would go that route.

02-22-2009, 12:06 AM

Are they the '08 sweaters or the '09s? They are a little stiffer towards the outside of the highback but get progressively more mellow towards the inner( the side of the highback closer to the middle of the board). 09's definitely blow away the 08's though.

bubbachubba340 · 02-22-2009, 12:14 AM

ya theyre 09s. Would you say that they have a medium to soft flex? Thats basically what im looking for

markee · 02-22-2009, 12:24 AM

There's no such thing as an 08 Sweater. And yes, other than the colorway, beer sleeve, and unnoticable "gel zones" in the ankle strap, Sweater = Formula.

Sweaters/Formulas aren't that soft, and yes the inner part of each highback gives a lot torsionally vs the outside, but I've found that since my highbacks are rotated they aren't really in the way anyway.

I would say they have an all-mountain flex i.e. medium flex. Bit stiffer than 390s. If you were in the pipe/jumping more than jibbing they'd be fine. If you're hitting jibs all day you'll want something softer.

bubbachubba340 · 02-22-2009, 12:27 AM

What would you recommend?

02-21-2009, 04:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	Burton p1.1, Ride beta, alpha, and rome 390 Im getting some mixed opinions when it comes to bindings. Some say The beta is a mid stiffness. some say it is stiffer. Some say the 390s are flexy and others say they are stiff. Mainly what im looking for is something that is fairly flexy like my 06 burton customs, but more sdvanced with nicer straps etc. I mainly do jibs and jumps up to maybe 15 foot tables, so a stiff binding doesnt suit me well. Any reviews on the 4 bindings in the title?

02-21-2009, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
jmacphee9 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,335	those are all stiffer then the customs, the p1s are probbbbbbbably the softest though, but im not sure because ive never compared them next to the 390s. the 390s arent as soft as people make them out to be though. i would say that they are a great park binding, that can handle itself very well out of the park as long as your not racing.. i would pick the romes out of the 4 __________________ Lib Tech Skate banana Flow NXT-FS Nike kaiju Burton [ak] 2l Cyclic Jacket Holden Northfield 3L pants

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02-21-2009, 06:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
VinXXX Guest Posts: n/a	The Rides are gonna be way too stiff for your riding style. They work fine for freeriding and bombing tho.

02-21-2009, 08:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	OK also one more binding to add to the mix. the k2 sweater. I found them somewhere for 120 and they would match my k2 www rocker well also. What do you think about these?

02-21-2009, 11:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
DustinSteezy Guest Posts: n/a	The K2 Sweater is just a Formula with a different colorway. If I were you, I'd just get the regular 09 Formula's for $40 cheaper unless you really care about looks. The Formula's are an awesome binding and if you do decide to go for them, get the 09's and not the 08's. They have been greatly improved. Awesome all-mountain bindings. If you were more park oriented, the K2 Auto is also an awesome pick. I have both the 09 Formula's and Auto's, so this is coming from first hand use.

02-21-2009, 11:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	Im very freestyle oriented. Lots of time in the park and pipe. How flexible would you say these bindings are? I found the sweaters for 120 but if the formulas were cheaper i would go that route.

02-22-2009, 12:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
DustinSteezy Guest Posts: n/a	Are they the '08 sweaters or the '09s? They are a little stiffer towards the outside of the highback but get progressively more mellow towards the inner( the side of the highback closer to the middle of the board). 09's definitely blow away the 08's though.

02-22-2009, 12:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	ya theyre 09s. Would you say that they have a medium to soft flex? Thats basically what im looking for

02-22-2009, 12:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
markee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 687	There's no such thing as an 08 Sweater. And yes, other than the colorway, beer sleeve, and unnoticable "gel zones" in the ankle strap, Sweater = Formula. Sweaters/Formulas aren't that soft, and yes the inner part of each highback gives a lot torsionally vs the outside, but I've found that since my highbacks are rotated they aren't really in the way anyway. I would say they have an all-mountain flex i.e. medium flex. Bit stiffer than 390s. If you were in the pipe/jumping more than jibbing they'd be fine. If you're hitting jibs all day you'll want something softer.

02-22-2009, 12:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
bubbachubba340 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 580	What would you recommend?