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Burton ReFLEX cartels (Large)

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#1 ·
Title says it all, i have some ReFLEX cartels i am looking to unload, i would really like to keep them. But i just upgrades camera bodies and i have been riding EST full time, so i just don't need these (i know i am going to kick myself for this)

Looking for $150obo + shipping. Prices are flexible but don't low ball me please. They are in great condition, but show some signs of use. I used them 5 times total.


 
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#7 ·
Was posting from my mobile earlier, so did not see the picture. You are correct - just a quick look at color scheme and and highback confirm that this is the 2010-11 version.
Do it is a completely different binding - different baseplate, two generation old highbacks, two generation old straps, etc.

Either the OP is seriously misinformed or trying to mislead/take advantage of people here. Not cool!
 
#8 · (Edited)
they are 2011 late release reflex cartels. I have the same pair, and I have the 2012's too. 2012's have zero forward lean, stiffer highbacks and the ankle strap is different. It fits a little different but is essentially the same. I personally like the 2011's 0.1 out of ten better than the 2012's.

edit: and compared to 2013's, the ankle strap has changed again, to a react strap(which just has less padding than the super strap)
 
#10 ·
Everything I can see on the pix looks like the 2010-2011 version - highbacks, straps, color scheme, etc.
In that case there is another difference to the 2011-2012 (in addition to the ones you mentioned): A new baseplate - which was pretty significant, so far from "essentially the same".
 
#15 ·
ok, we have a common start point. They were released in oct/nov 2010. This makes them 2010-2011 product, more commonly referred to as 2011 product. They were a late release, meaning they were announced after the regular lineup was released and so are not in the catalogue. Burton's marketing labeled them as an early 2012 release. see link:
Burton 2012 Cartel Re:Flex Bindings SNOW at Martini Northfield

it's all semantics. If you say they are from 2010, then that means they are from the 2009-2010 season, which they are not.

anyways, please tell me how exactly the re:flex baseplate changed?
 
#16 ·
ok, we have a common start point. They were released in oct/nov 2010. This makes them 2010-2011 product, more commonly referred to as 2011 product. They were a late release, meaning they were announced after the regular lineup was released and so are not in the catalogue. Burton's marketing labeled them as an early 2012 release. see link:
Burton 2012 Cartel Re:Flex Bindings SNOW at Martini Northfield

it's all semantics. If you say they are from 2010, then that means they are from the 2009-2010 season, which they are not.
Yes, I think we are more or less on the same page.

The labeling of the generations is semantics - many people refer to the 2010-2011 gear as the 2011 version, others (fewer) as the 2010 one. I prefer to use the 2010-11 format to avoid the potential confusion.

Burton's marketing did not "labeled them as an early 2012 release" - none of the marketing materials our shops got from Burton said anything remotely like it.
The Martini product page is inaccurate/has the wrong picture (it is in fact showing the previous generation/2010-11 version). Martini is notorious for doing this - here is another example (product page for the 2013 Restricted Missions, but picture is for the 2012 model): Burton 2013 Restricted Mission Re:Flex Bindings SNOW Bindings Mens at Martini Northfield

Anyway, I hope we agree that the following statement by the OP is utter bullshit:
Sorry, they are 11-12 last years. But nothing has changed to my knowledge from last seasons, to this seasons.

anyways, please tell me how exactly the re:flex baseplate changed?
Sure, will try to find some pictures for you.
 
#17 ·
:thumbsup: agreed

however, Martini is correct. They label the 2011 late release cartels as 2012 early release.
Same with the mission reflex you linked. They were a late release last year and labeled 2013 early release. It's all marketing.

Here's a japanese page of last seasons 2013 early releases
BURTON - 2012 Early Release Model | DEPTER_NEWS

It just means you can get the new tech a year early.
 
#18 · (Edited)
:thumbsup: agreed

however, Martini is correct. They label the 2011 late release cartels as 2012 early release.
Same with the mission reflex you linked. They were a late release last year and labeled 2013 early release. It's all marketing.

Here's a japanese page of last seasons 2013 early releases
BURTON - 2012 Early Release Model | DEPTER_NEWS
So just to be clear, you are saying that:
- 2011 late release is the same as 2012 early release,
- which in turn is a different model to the 2012 (or more precisely 2011-2012) normal release?

It just means you can get the new tech a year early.
Not really, you are still getting old tech. For instance, the 2012 Early Release Cartels are not like the 2011-12 Cartels - different highbacks, different baseplate, different straps...
 
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