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Old 09-17-2008, 02:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I wanted to buy a snowboard for my girlfriend who is a beginner. I was looking at the 5150 boards because I think they have the best look for her. However, I noticed that these boards are quite a bit cheaper than other boards I saw on sites like evogear or dogfunk. Would a $100 range be good enough for a beginner. What do the more expensive boards offer that make it more expensive (what quality do I sacrifice by going cheaper)? The 5150 board I was looking at was this one(5150 Empress Mini Girls Snowboard 138 cm Blue).

Is this 138cm board big enough for her (she is around 95 lbs and 5'2")? Also since this is the 'mini empress' and not the 'empress' what is the sacrifice (again are what quality losses are we talking about)?

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Old 09-17-2008, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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5150 sucks donkey taint.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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5150?!?!
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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138 cm? jesus how short is your girl?
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It seems that not many people like 5150's, but why? Shed some insight on your opinions please or atleast make another recommendation.

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Old 09-17-2008, 10:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well this is what i think. if you wanna buy her a board so you two can go snowboarding together and have a good time and stuff, then i dont think it really matters what the brand is. i mean, a board is a board right? i can see why hard core snowboarders like burton avenger and whoever are hella judgemental if they do like tournaments and ride park a lot and stuff. then they have to be careful about what board they use. but anyways, in your case i dont think it really matters what the brand is.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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they are a very low-quality brand that has no high quality products. They are basically a super-budget company targeted toward newbies who refuse to spend a lot of money. Your girl could probably make do on a 5150 if she is totally brand new and you dont think she will progress fast. However once she gets past the total novice stage shes gonna want something better.
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Old 09-17-2008, 11:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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5150 is the arm pit of the k2 corporations snow line. Its low end crap thats designed to attract people at sporting good stores. There built cheaply with low end materials. If you're going to drop the money on a board for her you might as well put her on something thats a bit more durable and safe. If she's a 12 year old kid with no regard to their gear, its fine to buy stuff like that.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So if 5150 is not a good brand, are there any good brands at a bargain price?

I was kind of under the same impression of xavier1 that the board is not so critical as say bindings and boots are. However, like I said I am no expert. If I spend more money on a board, what do I get in return (i.e. does it cut better, more durable, etc.)?

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Old 09-18-2008, 03:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Several advantages of getting a higher end board. The main issue is board performance. A beginner has less ability to compensate for deficiencies in equipment and therefore, having good quality equipment makes the learning curve easier and more fun. The properties that make boards higher quality are things like the materials used in the board`s core that give it "pop" or spring as well as stability especially torsional stability (the board resists unwanted twisting). Over the long haul, as the rider progresses, a higher quality board will still perform to their increased demands, whereas a budget, beginner board will not. In the end, they spend more money by going cheap in the beginning and then upgrading equipment later.

As BA mentioned, a cheap low end board like this will ride and is an okay option for someone who is`nt likely to progress much in the first couple of years of riding or they are a kid who is likely to be careless and prone to damaging their equipment. Brands like 5150, Lamar, LTD and some others that you will often find in big box sport stores like Big 5 are all in the same category; they are cheaply mass produced using very base materials that over a short time will loose their structural integrity and wear out.

A decent, intermediate all mountain board from a company such as Atomic, Rome, Ride, Burton, Nitro, Arbor etc can be had for under $300 depending on where you find them and when. Honestly, unless you suspect a loss of interest, you are better off spending a bit more and getting something she can truly grow with.

As for size, a 138 is waaaaaay too small for a girl of 95 pounds. I would be looking at something in the mid to upper 140`s with a soft flex to it. The longer board will be much, much safer and stable at speed. A shorty makes turning easy, but they chatter terribly once the rider learns to really ride and they pick their speed up a bit. A very good board, and one I recommend a lot for female riders just getting into it or at an intermediate stage is the Atomic Fallen Angle. Atomic has several other boards that are less expensive, softer flex and offer shorter sizes. Any Atomic board, even their bottom end will be light years ahead of something such as a 5150. I also am quite fond of Rome boards and they have some good choices that should fit your needs and wallet.

By the way, you`re on the right track about boots being the single most important piece of equipment. Bindings are not nearly so touchy so long as they are reasonable quality. In order of importance I rate #1 boots, #2 board, and #3 bindings.

Go check out Atomic and Rome: I have ridden and demo`d their boards and have found them to be of superior quality, value and performance. There are plenty of great manufacturers out there so check out them too; I just happen to be familiar with these two companies.


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