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Old 03-18-2013, 10:20 PM   #261 (permalink)
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RIP SuperNewb, it's only a matter of time (and a pile of taxpayer money) (lol)
Matter of time? We've had them in Ohio for as long as I can remember. "Click it or ticket". Dumbest slogan of all time....lol

I wear my seatbelt every time I drive. With that said, I fully support someone's right to not wear theirs. Why should I care?
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:23 PM   #262 (permalink)
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you musta missed that bit

love my '87 bronco cuz the are no fudgin' seatbelt alarms,hah
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:24 PM   #263 (permalink)
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Ha "take up arms."

See, in Dirty Harry fantasy land, "taking up arms" sounds cool. You get together with your buddies, form a little militia. Call yourselves the "Sons of Liberty" or some shit like that. Maybe play a little paintball to keep your skills sharp. Then you sit around and talk about how cool it would be to fend off an FBI raid when they come for your snowboard beanies.

Do you know what that same scenario looks like in real life, tough guy?

Waco, Texas.

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:33 PM   #264 (permalink)
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Oh he's used to it. I see that he lives on New York City, where there are now laws regulating what size soda you have from a fast food joint or gas station. I hear that their Dear Leader, is also banning 2 liter bottles from being silvered with your pizza. Yeah, you can keep that Orwellian shit in New York. Out west, we actually value freedom and individuality and will take up arms to defend it if necessary.
This state is bullshit. Seriously the most ridiculous state. They polled our class in high school and out of 139 students only around 10 said they planned on staying in New York State. The state outside of NYC is dying. Everyone is packing up and moving out. Jobs are leaving, people are done dealing with bull shit, and the jack offs in Albany are sitting there with their thumbs up their asses frantically trying to figure out why everyone is leaving the state like their ignorant asses have no clue why. Wish NYC would just fuck off and become their own god damn state. That's the way it's ran now, except all of our money goes to those fuckers.
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yeh, out here the squirrels are strapped

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:34 PM   #266 (permalink)
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Sorry, I went rant mode, but this place is a fucking dead limb of NYC. Sick of it. I mean seriously, you're going to try and tell me what I can and can't fucking eat.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:44 PM   #267 (permalink)
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Seat belt laws? I am opposed to. Yes, I ALWAYS wear a seatbelt but if I don't, it only affects me. I am from Arizona and we have no motorcycle helmet laws and I support that 100%. Do I wear a helmet on a motorcycle? Usually! When its a 115 out, fuck no I didn't. I as a legal adult had the right to weight the risks and make a choice and that's the way it should be. That choice does not adversely affect other people on the road. Arizona understands that it is not its place to be the people's personal nanny and until you have lived in a place like it, you will never understand.
I agree with you pretty much on the point that helmet and seatbelt laws are bullshit, but I am also perplexed by the issue of "you didn't wear a seatbelt and now we have to take care of your vegetative ass as a burden on our society". People who aren't smart enough to wear a seat belt, fear the "click it or ticket" and as a result cost us tons less in healthcare collectively.

I mean gnarly traffic accidents are pretty prevalent in this country...(and yes idiots who would not click it unless TOLD are causing them IMO)

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I'm a New Yorker and I support the soda ban.

First of all New York is the only state in the country that charges counties for Medicaid spending. Counties mostly rely in some form of property tax to pay the Medicaid bill (the 5 counties in NYC are exceptions.) So its entrenched bad fiscal policy that is killing the state. Taxes that transfer resources across income levels as rule shouldnt come from real property. You can move to NJ and get more for you money.

But while I've never read the research, I understand there is some to support the hypothesis that people will decrease calorie intake if portion size is regulated (they will drink only the 16 oz soda rather than buy 2 whereas preban they'd buy the 32 oz and drink every sip.) Over time this helps reduce cases of chronic diseases such as heart disease and diabetes. Chronic disease management is a massive suck on health care spending, public and private.

To me this isnt much different than Dept of Buildings mandating indoor plumbing at the turn of the century. Yes the state can regulate your rights to shit in a hole, even if you own the hole outright...since it reduces the spread of dysentery. If large portions contribute to unsustainable growth in health care costs, of course the state has the right to regulate portion sizes. If you want more, buy 2. But the evidence shows you probably won't.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:45 AM   #269 (permalink)
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In 23 years of commercial driving with well over 2 million logged miles. I have only been involved in two minor fender benders neither my fault involving drunk people swerving into me.
But assuming you are somewhere's within 3 standard deviations from the mean (as 96% of the population is) you have had 2 incidents leading to minor injuries in 2 million miles.

I have done max 5000 miles via snowboarding in my life and have had a broken wrist, many contusions, a concussion and one wicked case of frostbite. I have done hundreds of thousands of miles in an automobile and maybe one got a very unflattering arm tan.

Does this hold up for death rates vs minor injury? I dont know. For a number of reasons its harder to die snowboarding than driving. But I still contend snowboarding is waaaay more dangerous that driving but not nearly as dangerous as say football or maybe being a jockey.

Potential really means the same thing as probability so you have to play by those rules. The best person to ask would be an insurance actuary. If you could hold all other variables equal...I still think a 22 year old pro tour rider is going to have a higher disability premium than the 22 year old Teamster driving the Costco truck.
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You can't really solve aggregate problems with individual solutions. I agree that a more elegant solution would be to tax the shit out of the 2nd 32 ounces. I'd rather have people be able to buy a big gulp...but have it cost more than gasoline. But in lieu of that regulating thebsale of the 2nd 16 ounces in the most minor of ways (you have to carry two cups) isnt a big deal if it saves billions in health costs and productivity related to chronic disease.

And just for the record my husband has combat arms, a bronze star and a 100% disability rating from the VA. And he supports the soda ban. But mostly because he's sick of getting buped about by super fat people on the subway. We all have our motivations I guess...
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