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Old 02-13-2013, 10:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, since I just have ordered my first snowboard I guess I should be looking for appropriate clothes as well. I usually just walk around in a hoodie unless it gets below 5F so I don't really have any winter jackets.

What kind of jackets do you recommend?

I was looking at some sets from Volcom with jackets and pants with something called Zip-Tech and it seemed pretty awesome. Anyone here who've tried it and can confirm that it is as good as Volcom themselves claim? ^^

Except that I have been looking at this jacket from Oakely called White Ascertain:

Anyone who can tell if this is yay or nay? Details here.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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oakley makes great gear and that's typically what I wear when I'm riding, but I wouldn't pay that much for that jacket.

You can pick up a goretex jacket from oakley for only $80 more


Oakley Great Ascent Jacket | Oakley Store

Oakley gear also has a skirt system like volcom, where the skirt on the bottom of the jacket buttons up with the pants. I don't know if it works as well as the volcom zipper style, but I've never had any issues with snow down my ass crack.

Here's the matching goretex pants to the jacket I listed above.


Oakley Great Ascent Pant | Oakley Store

**EDIT: Just read into these two models and they do, in fact, have a zip-in skirt system. For just an additional amount of cash, you're in goretex. **

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Old 02-13-2013, 11:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have ziptech and it is amazing, especially for those early days when you fall all over the place. It's not essential (everyone else I know alternates tucking in their layers and/or just deals with getting snow up their back occasionally) but if you're buying from scratch anyway, it is really, really nice to have. Sometimes I forget to zip up and notice the first time I fall.

Personally I would stay away from white because it stains easier. It's less of a factor for jackets I guess, but I have orange pants and they already have black stains on the knees. I'm hoping they come out when I wash my gear at the end of the season, but it's something to consider if that sort of thing bugs you.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tip backstop13. Is the goretex one a major upgrade and is it worth the extra dime? The difference is only $45 here, as Oakley is for some reason cheaper here in Europe. o_O

The white jacket goes for $270 here - is it a bad jacket, or is the other jacket just much better compared to it? :]

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The overall quality on the Volcom products is good as well? :]*
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If you're at that price point already, then I would say Gore-Tex is more than worth a 45 dollar upgrade. That's just me though.

If you can get away with it, you might try riding a few times before dropping big coin on outerwear though. Unless you might use it for non-snowboarding purposes. I usually just use a heavy hooded sweatshirt, cheap Burton pants and good baselayer and I'm good down to 10 degrees F or so. If it's colder then I have a cheaper shell jacket to throw over top or a light fleece shirt as a mid layer. Pretty heavy guy like you (and me) is going to be sweating like a mutha anyways.
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Thanks for the tip backstop13. Is the goretex one a major upgrade and is it worth the extra dime? The difference is only $45 here, as Oakley is for some reason cheaper here in Europe. o_O

Goretex is definitely a major upgrade. Not only does it keep you dryer, it's going to breathe more too. Imagine wearing a garbage bag and going for a jog. All the sweat from your body is going to condense on the inside of the bag and then you're going to be soaking wet. Goretex fabric breathes and allows the moisture from you sweating to escape, while keeping you dry on the outside as well due to the elements. There's nothing wrong with the Ascertain jacket, you're just going to get a much better jacket without spending much extra money.

Here's a good article from evo.com explaining waterproof ratings.

Waterproof Ratings and Breathability Guide | evo

The oakley gear I recommended is two layer I believe. It will be a substantial upgrade over the 15k/15k Ascertain jacket you were orginally looking at. For a mere $45 dollar upgrade, it's a no brainer in my opinion, especially riding in Norway. 3L goretex would be even better, like Burton AK or Arc'teryx gear, but will cost additional money.

And like Trapper suggested, before you drop major coin on outerware, maybe you should ride a few days at a local resort to see how wet the conditions are.

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The white jacket goes for $270 here - is it a bad jacket, or is the other jacket just much better compared to it? :]
I don't think it's a bad jacket but in the US at least you can do better for the price. I got my goretex jacket and pants (last season) for around $130 each. Your mileage may vary though - if you're an average sized guy it's going to be much harder to find what you want at steep markdowns. For $45 I would upgrade to goretex, but I'm in the PNW and I don't know what the weather is like in your area.

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The overall quality on the Volcom products is good as well? :]*
I've only worn them ~10 days so I can't say how they hold up long-term but so far I have no complaints. The zips are smooth, the fabric has held up well, and it's very comfortable. My pants and jacket were their top of the line shells for that year so I don't know if that makes a difference, but I'm really happy with the quality.
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My Volcom stuff is awesome, my main setup has about 150 days on it, no manufacturing defects, still waterproof, looks almost new after a wash.

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So I found this from Volcom:


Details:
Click here.

Although it is more expensive than the Oakley one with Gore-Tex. o _o
2000 NOK equals 365 USD.

So, so far it seems like I'll be going for backstop13's suggestion.
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