i dont know if other holden equipment is as solid as this, but this is honestly the BEST snowboarding product i have ever purchased in my life. these pants are unbelievably comfy, and i cant believe how warm they are when they are just a shell! c_change is the shitt, it keeps you perfectly comfortable at all times. the tightness of the pants isnt restricting at all btw, like literally 0% restriction. even i was expecting a little pull when i stretched out, but nope.