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From my thermal layer and base layer i hve 2 wrist gaiters dont need a third one
Jacket is the only place I feel the need for wrist gaiters, so for me at least, any additional ones are irrelevant.

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Jacket is the only place I feel the need for wrist gaiters, so for me at least, any additional ones are irrelevant.
Exactly. The gaiters are there to prevent your base layers from getting wet, especially for those who wear under gloves
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Deviant, SGBoarder what kind of riding/where do you guys mostly ride?

Thinking of picking this jacket up -I ride mostly in the northeast and don't do too much backcountry/technical stuff but I'm a big fan of layering and need a new jacket that can handle the elements (rain included).
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How's the sizing? From what I'm reading its pretty average, not too tight but not too baggy?

Can't decide between a medium and a large. I'm 5'11" , 170 lbs. Any thoughts? About to pull the trigger on the "earth" color at backcountry.com.
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there is a bunch on whiskeymilita.com in the get kitted tab or the outerwear tab. More than half off.
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from someone who has this jacket, is it waterproof enough? it only has a 10,000mm waterproof rating. I have always used 200,000 mm rating and that would concern me.
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from someone who has this jacket, is it waterproof enough? it only has a 10,000mm waterproof rating. I have always used 200,000 mm rating and that would concern me.
Depends where you ride, I ride in Utah/Colorado mostly and my pants are 10k and my jackets only 5k. Unless you are making snow angels I don't really see the issue but that's just me.
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Guess I should check my own threads sometime eh?

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Deviant, SGBoarder what kind of riding/where do you guys mostly ride?
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Midwest here, venture east now and again but with the Great Lakes our weather changes pretty quickly (tonight turning to rain suddenly)

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How's the sizing? From what I'm reading its pretty average, not too tight but not too baggy?

Can't decide between a medium and a large. I'm 5'11" , 170 lbs. Any thoughts? About to pull the trigger on the "earth" color at backcountry.com.
Not sure if you already bought it, but for you I'd probably go large. 5 foot 8 155 here and I wear a medium.

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from someone who has this jacket, is it waterproof enough? it only has a 10,000mm waterproof rating. I have always used 200,000 mm rating and that would concern me.
10,000 in my opinion is fine for almost any type of riding. Majority of us don't ride in constant rain or lay on the snow for long so I dont think its an issue. My HellyHansen pants are 10k waterproof as well and its fine for the riding I do as well.

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no wrist gaiters is a +. they would just shorten the life of the jacket if these shells are really what they're made out to be.

mesh liner??? you mean there is a separate, loose layer of mesh flapping around between you and the shell like some cheap warm-up/track suit? fuck that. i'll never buy anything with that bullshit.

i like the idea behind the collar but if it come up to your goggles that's too high. i like to ride with my collar zipped all the way up ~90% of the time and this seems like it might be too much. i will only buy jackets with this style of one piece hood/collar (no collar behind the neck just hood) so the design is good with me - but if it has a mesh liner it is not a shell and i wouldn't wear it.
The mesh is like a vest, arms aren't included in that material, and it's not removable.

The collar only comes up to my goggles when I have the hood up. Otherwise on the lift in the wind I tuck my face down into the collar.

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I have now got 8 days with this jacket, and I must say that if you see one on WM and are thinking about a new jacket, pull the trigger.

The OP is a great review, and I completely agree about the functionality of the hood/collar. A few windy days, warm days and days with sleet. The jacket was plenty waterproof, plenty warm, and the best part : anything that WAS wet at the end of the day, the jacket was bone dry by the time night riding opened up!

I too got the medium, but am a bit bigger than a few who posted about it before, I am 5'9 but 190lbs. Still fit great, lots of room to layer.

Only complaint is that with the media pocket on the outside, your device can get cold fast and kill the battery.
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Look for it on WM. I got the black one for $49 today on WM. They had black, tan and violet like colors available.
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