Smith Gage Helmet / i/OX Goggle (Beyond Black) - Snowboarding Forum

Slush Puppie · 01-03-2013, 02:44 PM

Helmet: Smith Gage 2013 - Beyond Black
Great style and build quality and comfort. Better fit (for me) than my Maze. Very happy with this helmet and it was reasonable cost too!

Goggle: Smith I/OX 2013 - Beyond Black
Great looks. Especially with helmet. Flawless integration (as expected).
Great lenses. The low light one (pinkish) works better for me in heavy snow/flat light than my yellow EG2.5 and the Black one looks badass and was perfect in sun. Scratched pretty easily though.
Superb visibility.
Fit is slightly wide on my narrow face. Not the best seal around my nose.
Fogging... a little when running hot (beads on brow) but mostly pretty excellent. Fogging was a problem on my EG2.5s mostly due to breath getting in the even worse seal around my nose.
Changing lenses.. pretty good 'quick change' system but not actually any easier/quicker than the EG2.5s in this regard.

Overall pretty happy with both

TorpedoVegas · 01-04-2013, 06:43 PM

Hmm that's interesting... Last year I wore the I/O goggles and had fogging, especially at hills prone to extreme temp inversions. I overheat really bad, just naturally super warm...I also like pulling face masks or neck warmers up under my goggles when it's cold which makes fogging extra bad.

This year I got desperate and bought a pair of the I/OX Turbo Fan goggles, they work really good. Fogging is way better even without the fan. The other day I was still getting a little fogging at the top of the goggles, not too bad and the batteries in the fan kept freezing so I never really had the fan on, it was -21 on the hill. I was thinking the problem was maybe my Red Mutiny helmet not letting the air escape properly at the top and I was thinking of buying a Smith helmet for better ventilation integration, but now you have me second guessing if it's worth the helmet switch. Overall the I/OXs are a lot nicer than the I/O, better field of vision, and much better at controlling fogging.

Slush Puppie · 01-04-2013, 07:22 PM

I think there's a limit to the benefit possible from what the helmet can do in this regard. If you're overheated, especially if you're not moving (just hiked, or just go on the lift) there's not much a goggle can do other than fog. When it's that cold the airflow just then freezes the moisture and it's hard to shift without a cloth. To put it another way, I got the same thing on mine from time to time.

The best prevention I've found by far was to get my layering tweaked so that I could effectively control my temp better. Basically solved the issue for me.

Derp · 01-04-2013, 07:42 PM

Love my I/OX Turbo and can finally wear my glasses while riding without constantly fogging up. The red sensor mirror worked well with night time conditions.

01-03-2013, 02:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slush Puppie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: looking west over the Atlantic Posts: 283	Smith Gage Helmet / i/OX Goggle (Beyond Black) Helmet: Smith Gage 2013 - Beyond Black Great style and build quality and comfort. Better fit (for me) than my Maze. Very happy with this helmet and it was reasonable cost too! Goggle: Smith I/OX 2013 - Beyond Black Great looks. Especially with helmet. Flawless integration (as expected). Great lenses. The low light one (pinkish) works better for me in heavy snow/flat light than my yellow EG2.5 and the Black one looks badass and was perfect in sun. Scratched pretty easily though. Superb visibility. Fit is slightly wide on my narrow face. Not the best seal around my nose. Fogging... a little when running hot (beads on brow) but mostly pretty excellent. Fogging was a problem on my EG2.5s mostly due to breath getting in the even worse seal around my nose. Changing lenses.. pretty good 'quick change' system but not actually any easier/quicker than the EG2.5s in this regard. Overall pretty happy with both __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. Richard Dawkins

01-04-2013, 07:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
Slush Puppie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: looking west over the Atlantic Posts: 283	I think there's a limit to the benefit possible from what the helmet can do in this regard. If you're overheated, especially if you're not moving (just hiked, or just go on the lift) there's not much a goggle can do other than fog. When it's that cold the airflow just then freezes the moisture and it's hard to shift without a cloth. To put it another way, I got the same thing on mine from time to time. The best prevention I've found by far was to get my layering tweaked so that I could effectively control my temp better. Basically solved the issue for me. __________________ We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. Richard Dawkins Last edited by Slush Puppie; 01-04-2013 at 07:29 PM.

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01-04-2013, 06:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
TorpedoVegas Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 343	Hmm that's interesting... Last year I wore the I/O goggles and had fogging, especially at hills prone to extreme temp inversions. I overheat really bad, just naturally super warm...I also like pulling face masks or neck warmers up under my goggles when it's cold which makes fogging extra bad. This year I got desperate and bought a pair of the I/OX Turbo Fan goggles, they work really good. Fogging is way better even without the fan. The other day I was still getting a little fogging at the top of the goggles, not too bad and the batteries in the fan kept freezing so I never really had the fan on, it was -21 on the hill. I was thinking the problem was maybe my Red Mutiny helmet not letting the air escape properly at the top and I was thinking of buying a Smith helmet for better ventilation integration, but now you have me second guessing if it's worth the helmet switch. Overall the I/OXs are a lot nicer than the I/O, better field of vision, and much better at controlling fogging.

01-04-2013, 07:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Derp Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wausau, Wisconsin Posts: 158	Love my I/OX Turbo and can finally wear my glasses while riding without constantly fogging up. The red sensor mirror worked well with night time conditions.