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Old 12-29-2013, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2013 Flow Verve 154cm, Flow M9, Flow Rifts

Rider Stats:
161 lbs
Shoe Size 10
19 yrs riding and counting!

Mountain Conditions:
Eas Coast
30-40 Degrees
Packed Powder w/ some icy sections.

Alot of firsts for me here. Paired the Verve up with some 2013 Flow M9s and some 2013 Flow Scotty Lago Rifts BOA for the full Flow experience and overall I was very impressed. Ran +15/-15.

2013 Scotty Lago Rifts
Coming from 2006 Burton Hails (walk like a duck stiff) these boots have quite a bit more flex. The ankle retention system is very tight, from about a little past mid arch to mid calf I felt nicely locked in. Now I have a fairly narrow foot and felt that the tips of my toes I had a little more room than I wanted and with really no way to tighten it up but on the flipside I had some toe wiggle room and on the really cold days I could probably fit a warmer on the top of my toes. BOA system worked nice but I did need a mid day retighten, probably just the liners packing out. Overall I was very pleased, boots were looser and more forgiving than the Hails. I felt I had the support I needed where it mattered but still had enough flex for a more freestyle approach. I'd label it as a great choice for the all mountain freestyler or park afficionado.

*Update* I struggled with the excessive volume in the toe area, swapped my old Hail Liners in and solved all my problems. The stock liners were very thin/almost drafty.

2013 Flow M9
My first flow binding experience and it won't be my last. They definitely let me know when they weren't quite setup right but once you get these dialed in they were on par with any strap in system I used. Power transfer from heel to toe was right on once I got the highback adjusted in the right place. I did need a bit more forward adjust on these than other bindings. Tip to tail power transfer was a little softer than I would have liked but this may have been board related. Entry system took some adjustment and after another day with it, I think I will be fully adapted. I can see how less patient people would easily give up on these.

On a stiffness scale, very very similiar to my old missions. No hardware related issues which is always good. I did tighten up everything a bit, especially on new bindings, but that's become second nature by now, I never trust the factory setup. Overall, no real negatives, a whole lot of positives. Is one system better than the other? No I don't think so, just a different approach at the same problem that gets the same job done. I felt this is a nice binding that crosses that void between all mountain and freestyle. With some bigger mountains, I think I'd want a bit more but for East Coast riding, perfect.

Flow Verve 154
Impressive. Not too much in the way of rider reviews out there on this board but for the $100 this cost me, why not take a chance. I'm glad I did. As a long time camber/Custom X rider I thought for sure I would be disappointed and my expectations were low. I woke up this morning and every inch of my body was sore. This thing is playful. The park was closed so I played on every inch of the mountain. Groomers were a buttering paradise. There was a little more flex in the tail and tip than I wanted but once I adjusted I was fine. Speed was fine up into the mid 30's. I didn't push it harder, mostly due to Saturday crowds. No chatter, with carving the edges were there when I needed it. Very responsive on some mogul runs, damn easy to turn.

Ice, well ice is ice. I've ridden east coast long enough to know how to avoid it. Stick to the edges of the trail. The few patches I went over negotiated it just fine.

One weak spot I noted was on medium to small jumps. Granted the approaches to the jumps were sketch but I had hard time finding that sweet spot on takeoff. There was a noticeable lack of pop, but my setup time was very restricted. The tail would load up but the release wasn't explosive. With a another day or two and some better groomed jumps I think I could sort it out. Spins/rotations were very fluid and unemcumbered, board felt shorter than the 154 I was riding, very nimble.

One stand out win was switch. I could easily devote a whole day towards just switch progression on this board. It almost felt normal. Edges were catch free and forgiving. Made myself dizzy spinning all over the place.

Overall build and quality I think is unbeatable at this price point, regardless of what I paid. Looking back at other boards I've ridden at twice the MSRP of this board, makes me question what I paid for. I never pay full price for anything but in the 200-300 dollar range this one is a no brainer. It won a spot in the quiver when I didn't think it stood a snowball's chance in hell. A great freestyle oriented board that I can still comfortably take anywhere I want. Wouldn't be my first choice for powder, but I picked up a 159 Flow drifter for when that day comes...at $100 dollars you'd be stupid not to.

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Old 12-29-2013, 04:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I picked up a verve at the beginning of the season and I absolutely love it. It's a really fun playful board in the park. But now I am looking for more of a powder board to add to the quiver. So I was just wondering how you like the drifter and maybe you could do a review of it.
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Have not ridden the drifter yet but spec wise it seems to be a stiffer, directional version of the verve. I believe the profile is the same. I figure it should resolve alot of the all mountain drawbacks of the verve (minimal pop and fairly soft). I would expect when I finally get it in some powder it should be a very nice ride. I'll definitely do a review, but I'm not expecting a solid powder day till the end of February, nice week long trip so hopefully I get dumped on.
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