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Old 01-23-2012, 01:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default REVIEW - 2012 Jones Mountain Twin 164W

Bought this board as an early birthday present for myself and took it out for its first pow duty on Saturday Jan 21 2012 at Stevens Pass.

About a foot of fresh had fallen the night before and we arrived around 8:15am to stand in line on Kehr's chair and make our way up to the backside. Unfortunately, high winds plagued the first few hours of the day and we were confined to only the front for my initial experience.

I'm a lean and muscular big guy at 6'3 ~235lbs and typically go for ultra stiff setups so I knew this board would be a very different experience for me.

Now on to the review.

Board: Mountain Twin 164W
Bindings: 2010 burton c60
Boots: Nike Kaiju
Stance: 15/-15, 25in

I chose this combo because I was really interested in seeing if I could carve with the board's CamRock profile.

Board stiffness: I'd rate this board as a 4/10 where my 2012 Custom X is a 9/10.
Playfullness: Super easy to ollie and butter, very fun switch
Flex: Jones says the board is slightly stiffer in the tail but I never noticed it. Board felt like a true twin on jumps and smaller cliffs.

Pros:

The board did better than expected in powder and floated without too much effort. I appreciated the blunt nose but couldn't even tell there was any magnetraction on the edges. Spinning was simple, butters were fun, ollies had some pop, and the board was really lively. Turning was super easy and I could make really really tight turns with the sidecut. I felt like I could control it very well with very little effort but my "turns per hill" ratio went up drastically from my usual # that I can achieve with the Custom X.

Cons:

The board was unstable at any real speeds, didn't hold an edge well on steeper groomed runs, and I was thinking "What Magnetraction?" the entire time I was out of powder. Board constantly wanted to wash out in anything but pow and I never felt like it could handle a true deep carve so I didn't even attempt it. The durability of the deck is suspect. Topsheet was blemished and the base had a couple blemishes as well. Two thumbs down for the shit job Nidecker did on what could have been an awesome topsheet.

Overall:

This board forced me to change my entire style and I had a ton of fun despite the board letting me down in a few areas that I thought it would perform better in. It took a few runs to figure out the balance points so fun went up gradually the entire day. The CamRock profile was interesting but really felt loose at speed. No major chatter, but I had a couple washouts from hard carves that I thought the board would handle given the sidecut and magnetraction feature. I could overpower it at will, but when I turned down the aggression the board had more character and was less frustrating.

I would definitely recommend this board + size for any bigger guy looking to improve core fundamental snowboarding skills with a board that performs decently in powder. My usual mentality is to ride fast and hard on steeps, but this board required a different mindset. I had tons of fun on more mellow terrain and was constantly looking for features to hit without abandon. It wasn't a race to get down each run, but rather more like a chess match to pick a better line and search out some fun stuff. Pairing it with the stiffer bindings was a cool feeling because it made the board feel more playful and allowed me to pop fairly well. I might try a set of softer bindings with it to see what happens but I liked the feel of the c60s and at least now they aren't collecting dust.

This will be the board I take with me when I'm riding with less experienced friends or teaching someone. I did find myself pining for the Custom X a few times when I had to slow down out of necessity rather than choice.

I think if you got this board for under 400 you'd be getting a really sweet deal. The current price point is definitely a little too high given the durability worries and overall free ride performance. Freestyle, 2 thumbs up.

This is my first Jones board and I will continue to provide any updates worth sharing throughout the season.
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Thanks for the review! This was one of the boards I had been looking into. I cannot decide whether I want the C2/RC or something more like the BSOD with Rocker tips and camber between the bindings. I had a flat K2 and it was rather boring. The Heritage I rode last year was fun but that was mostly powder riding. Most importantly I want something that can carve! I guess the Jones Twin is now off the list. BSOD-TFA-GNU DK-TRice -Heritage or Agent. I guess I will have to buy them all!
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I felt that my Heritage carved very well even on pretty hard packed surfaces for what it`s worth...
Thanks! I have pretty much narrowed it down to the heritage. I saw a 158 pop on Geartrade for 348 bucks but did not act quick enough. Part of me still wants the MTX though. I did not get a chance to try the NS out on less than ideal conditions. I hate my old BTX lib board but it cannot be beat on icey days.
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Nice review. I have not heard of this brand. Could you post a pic or two of your board?
Here's the link to their site so you can check out more. (My board is up there in the mix along with his other all mountain stuff.)

Jones Snowboards 2011-2012

This is Jeremy Jones' brand and the production is done through Nidecker.
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Cons:

I was thinking "What Magnetraction?" the entire time I was out of powder.
They weren't kidding when they describe it as "mellow". I can barely tell there is any magnetraction on my hovercraft either.

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Topsheet was blemished and the base had a couple blemishes as well. Two thumbs down for the shit job Nidecker did on what could have been an awesome topsheet.
Nidecker's quality control in the Tunisia factory is highly suspect. I received 3 hovercrafts (group buy) and all 3 of them had off-set base graphics (S is cut off). They're all from different serial number batches and one is a smaller length that has different die-cut colors. Not even sure how something like that gets past a competent QC. The nose on one was blemed and the base on another was blemed. I guess you can't really expect top top quality at these prices but Nidecker's issues are giving Jones' brand a bad name.
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Nice review. I have not heard of this brand. Could you post a pic or two of your board?
This is Jeremy Jones new company since leaving Burton he satrted this company and is mostly based around powder style boards.
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This is Jeremy Jones new company since leaving Burton he satrted this company and is mostly based around powder style boards.
Jeremy Jones, the freerider, was with Rossignol i believe before creating Jones snowboards.

Jeremy Jones the freestyler is still at burton.

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Nice review. I have not heard of this brand. Could you post a pic or two of your board?

Really Snowolf?
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