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Old 02-08-2010, 10:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok so ill be going to SLC at the end of FEB.
im in a little bit of a dilemna here.

i looked at various mtns that will accompany my snowboarding needs ( i.e. wide and long runs, not really crazy steeps )

from the dif trail maps that i looked at, all peaks are on average of 10k ft and the base lodge area is at around 8700ft which brings a total to around a 2000ft drop which is a bit shockingly small to me for being this "great Utah" since here on the east coast where i ride in Vermont, we have smaller peaks but the drops are within the same range as in Utah.

Am i looking at this all wrong or am i just Utah-rted from being over excited about this trip?

PLZ clarify people!
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Utah is a great time. Depending on the mountain that you hit, you can have a blast! That being said, when I was there in January I had actually said to a buddy of mine "good God, I feel like I am in the Poconos." I suggest you hit the bigger mountains and challenge yourself. Be careful of places like The Canyons (which I have been to) or Park City (which I can't say much on). The Canyons just isn't that entertaining. However, a place like Snowbird or Brighton is well worth the trip.

Think of current snowpack......Killington 119 inches (that is AWEFUL!!!) Stowe-165 inches....the Canyons 153 inches Powder Mountain-159 inches...I see your concern.

However, Consider Jay (which has been doing much better as of recent) has 178 inches against Snowbird's 250 or Brighton's 280.....the snow is much much much better. With the more frequent snow cycles, you have a better chance of catching a storm.

Match that with open bowl riding at a place like Bird (you said you wanted wider runs....hit the bowls at Snowbird) and a totally different terrain experience compared to the East....you'll be fine with Utah. If you catch it with a decent snowfall....you'll be absolutely Utarded!!!
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Utah is all about its super light and fluffy snow. I don't know anywhere that has comparable snow quality. In terms of vert, on a weekday you can easily do over 35,000 at snowbird because of the tram. That said the mountain isn't huge in terms of terrain. If you want tons of terrain go to vail which is friggin humongous.
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Snowbird is huge. I remember being there years ago in March. We were so far out in one of the bowls we were afraid of not making it back into the lift on time to get back to the base. You won't run out of terrain there. And yes, you're really here for the SNOW. Light and fluffy powder. You should be able to catch a storm around that time. I'll be heading out the 22nd of Feb for a week. Don't worry so much about the drop since it'll be different terrain either way.
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im not really too concerned about the quantity of snow cuz i know ANY where has more snow than the east coast, so im not one of the spoiled brats out there who complain they "only" got 300" of snow ytd and its bumming their day.

im used to riding on a base depth of 30" and i still make fun out of it.

But thanx for all the info guys. i was considering the canyons but had a change of heart...so brighton and snowbird will def be in the picture
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Snowbird is huge. I remember being there years ago in March. We were so far out in one of the bowls we were afraid of not making it back into the lift on time to get back to the base. You won't run out of terrain there. And yes, you're really here for the SNOW. Light and fluffy powder. You should be able to catch a storm around that time. I'll be heading out the 22nd of Feb for a week. Don't worry so much about the drop since it'll be different terrain either way.
Hey Mag, since you and I are both from NY, how do the blues and black trails in Utah compare to the ones in VT or in the catskills.

Snowbird looks like it has a lot of those especially single and double diamonds, so im just worried that since its "UTAH" then the difficulty will be over the top.

is this true?

Can anyone answer this thats been riding on the east so that way i can compare it to something?
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Hey Mag, since you and I are both from NY, how do the blues and black trails in Utah compare to the ones in VT or in the catskills.

Snowbird looks like it has a lot of those especially single and double diamonds, so im just worried that since its "UTAH" then the difficulty will be over the top.

is this true?

Can anyone answer this thats been riding on the east so that way i can compare it to something?
Mineral Basin http://www.snowbird.com/imagelib/tra...ap_mineral.pdf

Bird Maps http://www.snowbird.com/imagelib/tra...p_snowbird.pdf

I'll chime-in until Mag offers his two pennies. I ride the east regularly. I'll be at Blue Mtn, PA on Wednesday and I get to Vermont/NH/UpState NY about 6 times a year. Snowbird and the Catskills (Hunter) are not related in any sense. But, there is a reason you are heading to Utah, right, to get out of the Catskill scene.

When Riding at the Bird look to ride in two particular ares Mineral Basin and the Gad Valley. These are big (wide and doable) open runs that are accessed by the tram. After you get off the tram, walk past the warming hut towards where the other lifts are topping-off. Take that traverse run and Mineral Basin will be on your left. Gad Valley/Little Cloud will be on your Right. Drop into Mineral Basin by using runs like BluebyYou, Lone Star, and Big Dipper. You could even follow the little traverse run of Path to Paradise to Junior's Paradise. Once you got to the bottom of the Basin, catch the Baldy Express and take the greens back down.....they are fun open roller trails. Stay to riders left and you'll have a blast. You'll even get the opportunity to see the fat grumpy big sister of Snowbird.....Alta. Tell we all said to eff-off. Soon you'll be ballsy and start looking for the next best line as you ride the lifts back up. Once you exhaust your interest in Mineral Basin (the lifts back here are high-speed and you can get many runs, quickly) go to the top of the Mineral Basin Express, wander across the other side of the ridge, and drop-in where the double chair (Little CLoud) is unloading people. Runs like Road to Provo, Regulator Johnson, Shireen, and Last Choice are all yummy. Watch-out, there are unexpected chutes and drops here, but you will be able to go to the left or right of them as you approach them. If it looks too nasty, it probably is....look for an easier way down, it won't be hard to find.

These ares are wide open, particularly Mineral Basin. You should do very well in this area. Be careful, there is a tight Chute that runs directly below the Mineral Basin lift, towards the bottom. If you want a comparison, think of Double DIpper/Cascade in Killington only much much wider and much much longer. Also, think of it like this......I'm not sure if you've ever been to Placid, but I be willing to bet you've never been there when the Slides are open! (Me Neither) Think of Utah as the Slides finally being open only a hell of a lot bigger!

Don't Psych yourself out. Go balls out, have a blast, just ride safe and you'll be fine. I assume you have somebody(s) to ride with. I'm jealous, brother....very jealous. You'll come back all snobby about the east coast snow!
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thx for the colorful and helpful reply NeednSnow.

that is actually what im exactly looking for. And it sure helps out even more coming from someone who is used to east coast riding.

I will probably print out your reply, and take it on the plane with me to memorize haha

Thanks buddy!
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ok so i think i got it now after studying that map.
snowbird is like a pyramid, in which, when ur at hidden peak, u have the option of going down 1 of 2 different sides of the mtn, correct?

one side is the main face, and then other is the more mellower gal valley/mineral basin?

i also noticed dashed blue lines. i couldnt find no map legend. is that snowbirds way of indicating that its a single black or just a more diffcult blue?
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If you can ride the ice-coast you will be fine.......don't get intimidated....trust your skills and go into it knowing you got it....don't ever, ever question your ability....that is when you panic, stiffen up and screw yourself. All in the head my friend!
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