Snowbird, UT v Vail, CO - Snowboarding Forum - Snowboard Enthusiast Forums
SnowboardingForum.com is the premier Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-21-2011, 11:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 33
Default Snowbird, UT v Vail, CO

Hey there everyone! In preparation for 11/12 I am wanting to decide upon my destination. I have been tossing up b/w Snowbird and Vail for months now and honestly for the life of me cannot make up my mind - indecision doesn't plague me... but now it has reared its ugly head...

I'm looking for input from those members who have been to either resorts, and or know people and or experiences belonging to those who have spent time there.

My aim for 11/12 is to 'chase' powder... However, I am wanting to stay a solid 2 months in Snowbird or Vail.

Few things about preferences:
- Freerider primarily, absolutely into riding off-piste and back country exploration (mind you 10.11 first season, so nothing TOO extreme, will UP the anti 11/12).
- A park-rat on those 'icey' and 'miserable' days when powder is nowhere, w/in reason, to be found - Hooked on half-pipe (it's my thing)

In summary, I enjoy a little bit of everything but tend to enjoy exploring all unknown nooks and crannies.

Although I have weighed the pros and cons... I have done so, re. varying resorts throughout the US and have narrowed it down to Snowbird/Vail.

I'm @ a loss, so feedback greatly appreciated and or suggestions from seasoned (or not) boarders!
schmoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-21-2011, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
Veteran Member
 
killclimbz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Front Range
Posts: 10,805
Default

Snowbird in bounds terrain is seriously better than Vails. It's steeper, offers way more challenging lines. Vail in bounds is basically one intermediate hill. Nothing steep there, but there is great riding none the less.

Now if you have avalanche experience, have gear and partners, the Vail Sidecountry beats the pants off of Snowbird sidecounty. One of the best kept secrets. East Vail is littered with cliffs, pillows, and chutes. It's gotten popular and for good reason. Shit is also serious back there. People who don't mind the avy conditions, or know how to read them, get killed. It's that simple, you die. The Colorado snow pack is sketchy at best and the side country at Vail is some of the most serious stuff you can get into.

Overall, I think you are probably going to get more of what you want at Snowbird. The sidecountry there is also pretty damn good. So maybe 'beating the pants off' is a bit of an exaggeration. I think Vail's is better, but if you throw in the backcountry in Little Cotton Wood Canyon, not just the resort accessed stuff, then Snowbird is better by far.
killclimbz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2011, 12:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
Veteran Member
 
lisevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hicksville, NY
Posts: 1,846
Default

I haven't done the back country at either as the people I usually go out with are trying to keep it easy and prefer lifts to hiking. That said as much as I love Vail, Snowbird is my favorite mountain. The variety of terrain is way better than at Vail and it's also easier to get to than it is at Vail because of how much acreage there is. Both have some challenging lines if you look for them but like Killclimbz said there is way more challenging in bounds runs than there are Vail. Let's put it like this, my wife (who's intermediate at best) and I did one of the double diamonds on the front of Vail, I want to say Prima, accidentally and it was essentially just a long somewhat steep mogul run, challenging but IMO not warranting a double diamond rating especially in CO. At Snowbird if you take the little cloud lift and don't even go into Mineral Basin and stay on the front side you have chutes, cliffs and steeps that will scare the shit out of you. When the conditions are right at Snowbird it can't be beat...
lisevolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2011, 12:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 33
Default

Massive thumbs up @ Lisevolution and Killclimbz for input!

Good to hear that the inbound runs are decent, perhaps my preference for out of bounds travel/off-piste stems from tiring/trying runs that are heavily congested - just have to get away. Mind you, my local ski-hill has 8,000 acres of skiable terrain (inbounds)... I suppose I looked towards the acreage that Vail has and used this as a focal point. I guess I don't want everything to be tracked out...

The feedback you both provided has assisted me in finalising my whereabouts for 11/12 - I just needed a 'push' not a shove in the right (for me) direction.

Snowbird ftw 11/12 for these reasons:

- Love steeps... a part from pipe, steeps offer me my moment of 'stoke'.
- Close to SLC and other cities/towns that won't bleed me dry, like Vail.
- Much easier to travel to/from Snowbird, and other Alta resorts. ($75 (thereabouts) for month pass to/from Snowbird from SLC)
- Sick snow-fall statistics - 640 - 660 inches 10.11 thus far 0_O!!!! - average of 500 inches... ^___^
- Season Pass (Young Adult Pass - CHEAP EZ!) = )


I'm concerned about the POW getting tracked somethin'-fierce due to limited acreage (well not THAT limited, still).

Anyone have any experience w/ this?

Snowbird... The hype is that it gets CROWDED ... What w/ a 17000 per hour on-hill capacity... That's a stampede in my mind! Suppose there's Brighton/Solitude/Park City... Alta.

Thanks again gents!
schmoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2011, 06:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vail, CO
Posts: 3,634
Default

Where do you live with an 8000 acre resort near by? That's good size. Im moving to vail mid june for about a year.... I liked it up there. Salt lake and that area is just to barren for my tastes. I like lots of trees.
Argo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 07:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
neednsnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 1,285
Default

Slow down, there, rockstar. Sorry, I just got back from vacation and haven't checked the boards. You're looking to do two months? Will you have your own transportation? Usually, I'm 100%, hands-down, Snowbird. Thats only because I'm a touron and need more bang for my buck. SLC is a better airport for quick access to the mountains than is DEN.

However, if you are sticking around for 2 months, and you have a car, you might want to Consider Vail.

At quick glance, I couldn't find the cost of a Young Adult Pass for Bird, but the Epic Pass gets you access to much more than Vail. Epic gives you Beav, Breck, A-Basin, and some Tahoe love, with Vail. You're looking at $480 for a slightly restricted set of days....70% of which probably won't be in your 2 month window, anyways.

Bird gets you Bird and the Masses swarm that place. It is huge and deliscious, but it gets manged up in a day or two (stashes to be found, for sure). I love the variety of Mountains in SLC, but the fact that none share passes is quite depressing.

Just wanted to add this little bit of advice to your considerations.
__________________
Neednsnow.com:
Traveling the States and Taking Pictures
neednsnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 11:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
-LIFETIME MEMBER-
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vail, CO
Posts: 3,634
Default

Yeah. The free transportation in and around Vail is awesome. You can get to breck or beaver creek for free too.
Argo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 12:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
Veteran Member
 
Shocktroop531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: park city , Utah
Posts: 500
Default

not even a fair comparison. Vail is for ladies in mink coats who ski twice a year and take three hour lunch breaks for a sushi and prime rib buffet. Snowbird on the other hand, is the mack daddy big mtn resort. no frills. just gnarly terrain and did I mention they get twice as much snow as vail. will likely eclipse 700 inches this season.

I saw you mention the word "powder". well look no further. snowbird is the powder hounds mecca. although it does track out very fast (only down side really). if you want a place to find great stuff for days then invest in a solitude midweek pass. right around the corner from snowbird. less steep but its a kickass little resort and gets the least traffic of the four cottonwood canyon ski areas.


not to mention a ridculously long season at the bird. I'll be ripping a fresh foot of the best snow on earth tomorrow morning at the bird

Last edited by Shocktroop531; 04-25-2011 at 12:55 PM.
Shocktroop531 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 12:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
Veteran Member
 
killclimbz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Front Range
Posts: 10,805
Default

Vail cleared 500" this season. Not really twice as much...
killclimbz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 03:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 33
Default

@ Argo: As I am in Whistler BC, both Whistler and Blackcomb Mountains are my local ski-hills. Yeah, 8,000 skiable/boardable acres of terrain isn't too shabby ... Due to all of the acreage I'm concerned about 'downsizing'. One of my MAIN considerations re. Vail was its acreage and park/pipe (snowfall average/amount 10.11 made me look towards other options).

@ neednsnow: I won't be driving, so will need to live w/in walking distance to the hill or alternatively I'll make use of transit in the area. Snowbird, and or other Alta Resorts appear to be easily accessed via transit which is and was my main concern.

My main reservation: settlement in Vail and or around Vail - e.g. Sandstone, East Vail, etc.

The Young Adult Season Pass, inc. tram/chair is around $650... Yes, I am aware that the Epic Season Pass enables access to a multitude of other resorts in the area, however once again, it's transportation/cost of settlement in the area that leaves me doubtful.

When/if Snowbird is indeed the destination I will be hitting up other resorts! Brighton's night boarding/skiing ftw and pipe! = )

Thanks for your input!

@ Shocktroop531: Yeah, the amount of terrain and popularity (based on proximity/conditions) is the ONLY con I can actually think of. Traffic, while it doesn't ruin my day, it doesn't necessarily make it any better either...

Yes, powder! Really all I care about next season, hence sniffing around for a likely spot! I'll just have to reconcile my differences w/ runs being tracked-out... OR... trek for freshies! = ) All in all I'm stoked!

Cheers for the feedback!

NB: EVERYTHING SAID THUS FAR HAS REALLY ASSISTED ME! SO !

[I'm going to spend some time in Colorado @ Vail/Breck/Key/Aspen but only a day or two each, to see what is on offer - before or after Snowbird]
schmoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:29 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums