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JU is on point...you can get anything at the convenience stores and Kutchan (15 min away) has full sized supermarket. I actually enjoyed the train..found it quite scenic, but the bus would be much easier with a child in tow!
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how much was the train and how long did it take?im thinking of connecting flight by air... but i always did want to travel one day on them bullet trainsbut the coach not sure about that, price might be ok, but how long by road anyone know?..
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The bus costs 2300 Yen and takes about 2.5 hours... it goes point to point and drops you off in the center of Hirafu village.

The train is not a bullet train, just a "regular" train. The whole journey takes around 3 or more hours, probably closer to 4 after you factor in the additional taxi / bus ride from the station to Hirafu. Bear in mind that the train journey has 2 legs, the express train with fewer stops from the airport to Otaru. At Otaru, you have to switch to a local train that stops at every station along the line. I think I had to wait 40 minutes or so at Otaru when switching trains. I think the train cost about 3000 Yen not including the ride from Kutchan to Hirafu.

One reason why the train would be more cumbersome with small children is that you have to carry all your luggage with you, up and down stairs, and onto the train itself (no separate luggage compartment).

Check out the "JR" (Japan Rail) website for more info and train fares / schedules.
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Has anyone found any good deals on fights as they seam to the most expensive part.

$399 one way is cheapest that I have found.

I am think of going around the end Jan for 5-7 days.

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I have been to Niseko and Hakuba the last 3 years in a row, have booked all my trips through Deep Powder Tours Ski Holidays. They are really helpful and can set you up with a good overall package and have an office in town with translators and ground support while you're there. I've used them 3 years in a row and plan to use them again this coming season.

Those $399 fares will be one way, fly via QLD, land in Osaka and are generally shitty jetstar shittiness. Not to mention they don't run those specials in the winter months.
Nothing flies direct from OZ to Sapporo unfortunately (I ask the DPT guys every year because airlines talk about re introducing that route but never do), you need to get a domestic flight once you arrive. Last 3 years ive flown JAL and Qantas and JAL's service shits all over Qantas, and plus they always hook me up with exit row seats (I'm not even 6 feet tall, but I am a lot taller than the average Japanese person, hot tip)

I'll be back for the 4th time in Feb, probably gonna go for about 12 days shortly after Chinese new year. If you want to know anything about Niseko and Hakuba in particular then ask away =) There are a few other resorts on my hitlist but you simply cannot get bored with the amount of powder Niseko gets.

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Thanks Reede I'll check them out.
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